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 Posted 06/19/2015  5:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
so I bought some coins from a seller paid over $220US , after a month and a half I hadnt received anything yet (im in ontario he is in Quebec) so I sent a couple messages , no reply so naturally I filed an ebay claim and got my money back. few weeks later the seller started emailing me one email after another calling me *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. *** etc,, and was really upset I got my money back, so I told him if he doesn't stop I would report him and its a good chance ebay may pull his account. so after that it was quiet for a few days then today he started calling me names again saying hahaha ebay cant do anything you idiot ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so I messaged back and said I forgot to report you but now I will.. so I called ebay and they said this is definitely UN-acceptable and he has been reported now....why didnt he just let it go? and why am I the bad guy for getting my $$ back for an item I never got? I just dont get some people
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 Posted 06/19/2015  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankfully my negative experiences on ebay have been few and far between. In most cases people are great to deal with and the transactions go smoothly. For the exceptions, I have been lucky to have escape any negative feedback. Some people are very difficult to deal with and will never be happy no matter what you do or how well you do it.

I am glad you got your money back.
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I am glad you got your money back.

me too,
i was willing to let it go but the seller wasn't
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 Posted 06/19/2015  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The big question here was it not tracked? If the seller did not track it then he left himself wide open. If he did track it where the heck did it get to?
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 Posted 06/19/2015  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no it was not tracked
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As a seller it is very important to realize you are at the very bottom of the ebay hill when the <bad word self-filtered> starts to roll....
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 Posted 06/19/2015  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wandering to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once I bought a coin with ~USD150 from US. When I asked the seller only answered me simply saying no tracking. However days later I received the coin and there is tracking number on it, and I left positive feedback and told seller about this.
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If it costs me more than $35 to replace - then I ship it with tracking. Sometimes, I pay for part of the shipping fees myself, for that peace of mind.
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 Posted 06/20/2015  12:55 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We will never ship another ebay sale non tracked in Canada or anywhere else EVER. Two losers Eastern Canada just about cost us our ebay account!.
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 Posted 06/20/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trimble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pacificoin...does ebay require just proof of tracking or both tracking and signature when things go south?

thanks, interesting info of lessons for selling
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 Posted 06/20/2015  10:25 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a seller sends without tracking they do so at their own peril. With ebay being totally for the buyer the seller always loses. It is not a level playing field by any means. The worst thing that ebay did was NOT allowing a seller to leave negative feedback for a buyer.
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 Posted 06/20/2015  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trimble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Pacificoin...I understand the tracking, but do we, as a seller, also require proof of signature by the buyer? (As far as ebay/paypal goes?)
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I am quite surprised that a seller of US$220 of coins would not have sent it in a tracked package.

But SPP and Pacificcoin, I am quite surprised you use tracking for values as low as you do. The tracking costs really does come out of your hide as a seller. I have bought a couple of things off you, Pacificcoin, and I can tell you that the amounts I paid for the coins were definitely discounted by the cost of the shipping. So while the coins you sold me arrived, you still "lost" about $10 on each in money that could have been in your pocket but instead went to the post office.

I generally only track things now with values of say $125 or more, I have gone for almost a year now with no purchases or sales going astray. If I had used tracked shipping for all of them, I would considerably enriched the post office at my expense. It does sting when a $50 or $100 item goes astray, but it happens so rarely I still think it is better to take the risk.
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 Posted 06/20/2015  11:09 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Smallcentguy......First we always appreciate your business. Second , we as many other Canadian sellers do get hammered on shipping costs, but not as badly as you might think. We have a Ventureone card from Canada post so we buy our shipping at a touch cheaper cost.Also we have a couple of Discount postage stamp sellers, where we can buy old postage at a nice discount.
You have probably noticed that we are NOT offering much in the inexpensive Canadian coin category anymore. Economically just not able to anymore. Our recent move to near the U.S. Border has made it far easier to sell to the USA and world markets.
Tracking via the USA postal service is a little over 2 bucks for a small Pak.international is about 7 bucks. To protect our two ebay stores we are now tracking absolutely everything. Since over 75 per cent of our sales are to export rather than Canada and we can walk 300 metres to a USPS outlet ,this option works for us.
Really is a shame, since the market for lower value items is a lucrative one.But just as there is the odd bad seller out there there is an equal or indeed larger amount of bad buyers taking total advantage of the current ebay rules. This I did not get syndrome is absolute garbage. I had a career at Canadapost for over 22 years and I can tell you, based on the various positions I worked in at the Corporation, very very little truly goes missing. If you correctly address the item ( both a sender and return ) it gets there.
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I have only had a few bad things happen to me selling and buying in 10 years or so but for high end sales I always send with tracking and returned items with a signature required on arrival. My worst cases have been with Canada Customs the package is tracked to Customs then never seen or herd of again this has happened to me more than once. When I call USPS service about it they tell me to get in contact with Canada Customs it was delivered to them and when I contact them they have no answer to what happened with my package end of trail.
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But SPP and Pacificcoin, I am quite surprised you use tracking for values as low as you do.


Bear in mind that I also subsidize my postage with using older stamps purchased at well below cost...
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