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1950 & 55 Jeff Nickels -Improper Alloy Mix & Black Beauty?

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Hey guys, so the recent black beauty thread and Mike Diamonds article that coop posted had me searching my Xteen amount of Jefferson albums and the first one had these. What do you think? That 55 isn't toning, I don't think, as no other coin looks like it at all and these have been in there a long time but this is new to me. Anyways, what do you guys think of them?...

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1955 looks like it may have been a proof that toned that way. Now, the 1950 D Is probably a woody. I have only seen one woody nickel before.
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It is not a proof nickel. They rims are different on proof nickels:
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The color on the 1955 looks uneven on the reverse. So I don't think this is a Black beauty. Just toned as "kid" mentioned.

The 1950-D nickel is a collectable in its own right. (lower mint on that year/mint mark) a lot of them were saved in BU because it was common knowledge that is would be low mintage. So even circulated examples are about the same price as a BU. (because so many were saved in BU)
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Oh, ok Coop. I forgot to look at the rims. I have seen proofs tone like that so I just assumed it was one. I see the rims now though, thank you.
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Neither one of these has the "black beauty" look to me.
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probably a woody. I have only seen one woody nickel before


Really kid, I have a few & even colorful ones. Is there a collector base for them like the lincolns?
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I wouldn't really know. Maybe if you sold it along side a woody cent it would get more attention.
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I have a couple of those "black cherry" nickels. They all came out of the Uncirculated Mint set packs from the early 50s. Ill see if I snag a pic. Actually I have both nickels that look like that from the mint sets. Weird right?
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Here is a link to my alloy mix error https://goccf.com/t/136747&whichpage=1
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The 1950-D suffered the fate of being left in acidic coin-dip too long. The acid leaches the nickel and copper away from the coin at different rates with the result being a washed-out (sometimes grayish) look with with streaks running in the direction that the strip was rolled.
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Thanks john, does anyone know spp's results on the buff? Reading that was like watching a great season finale and then the show gets canceled during summer

I think I'm gonna start a show us your toned/woody/improperMix jeff thread.
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PM SPP.
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Here you go, Cascade. I collect these as well as the pennies. It is my understanding that the "improper alloy mix", actually is incomplete mixing, or under mixing. It is also my understanding, it only has to show on one side. The obverse on this one only has one knot. lol

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I think the Black Beauty appears as "Gun Ship Gray".
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CoinMasters,
The coin you show is the result of it being left in an acidic coin dip too long. It's not a genuine woodie. The dirt and grime on the obverse is a tip off that somebody hoped to clean this coin up in the dip.

The 1950-D at the top of this thread is also the result of being in a dip too long. Anybody can do this to a Jefferson but it most often occurs in a dip that has seen overuse.
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