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 Posted 07/15/2015  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To JBUCK & ELIMIST:

I assume you guys still have the coins you collected for the "coin collecting badge:?

Are the "coin collecting badge coins" with your other coins or did you seperate them into their own group?

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 Posted 07/15/2015  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That modest 20th century type set lives on in my 7070.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Life Scout over here!

I never earned the coin collecting merit badge as I didn't really start collecting until after my time in the Scouts. I really wish I had though, so that's why, someday when I settle down, I'll become a counselor for the merit badge. And if any of my nephews or cousins decide to join the Scouts, I'll steer them to the Coin Collecting merit badge as well.

It's funny how you don't realize all the opportunities you missed out on until they've long since passed.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Our club puts on a merit badge clinic every year.

http://www.milwaukeenumismaticsocie..._clinic.shtm
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 Posted 07/15/2015  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's cool

I bet each and every one had a ton of fun AND learned while they were at it
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 Posted 07/15/2015  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JESP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a great event, and it's certainly a nice way of interacting with young members of the public. :)

@ Atlas - I know what you mean. As an example I never earned Railroading, even though one of the troop leaders was a counselor. I'm a counselor for the badge now.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin collecting Merit Badge is and has been a scam since it was created. It shouldn't include bills or stamps, just because they are similarly collected.

When I got the badge the thing with bills was completely ignored because bills were not coins. No Scout Master ever agreed that should be included. Recently when I read the requirements in 2014, likewise those I have spoken too have removed some of the requirements for it and ignore them as well.

Things were added to bloat the badge to make it something "worth" getting, but not possible for all. #10 is especially impossible to do when you don't live close enough unless you sacrifice the worth of going to Philmont just to travel to a coin show. and the USMint site it just a storefront.

What they still do to replace that, like what they did with me, was just buy a US coin collecting book of some sort and given a test on it. It isn't like you wont need the book later if you intend to keep the coins and it will give more information than the USMint website after their redesign.

IF you want to do justice to the kids getting the badge, Throw the merit badge book out. Teach then what they actually need to know form a coin collecting perspective, not some random list of requirements for an elective badge on their road for Eagle.

Teach them thins like identifying the parts of the coins, all 86 circulating quarter types/designs (not counting varieties: Liberty forward), 3 circulating dime types (Winged Liberty forward) etc.

Explain why the designs changed and what the change commemorates. How the design change goes into effect. Franklin to Kennedy half is a good example. Lincoln Bicentennial is another.

Teach them the weights of the coins and such to be able to identify them. I think one new requirement and maybe it was an older one also is to get a coin graded. You dont tell someone 14 to spend $50 for a merit badge for something they may never del with after and arent even getting their monies worth for. You are supposed to be teaching them things that coincide with school stuff in a more interesting way, and tools they will need for the future. Again Most of the elective badges are messed up especially the ones like collecting and back in the day computers because they are writtn by someone that has no knowledge of these things in real world use perspective.

so why some coins have reeds and others dont, is much more important than getting a coin graded.

By counselor I assume you mean at summer camp or a merit badge college/camp type thing. You should bring up with your Scout Master or your Council the problems mentioned here about the badge, and ask them how it can be changed to benefit those getting the badge with useable knowledge, not jsut busy work to get the badge.

Obviously not all badges should be changed, but always question if what you are teaching is worth teaching and helpful to those you are teaching it to. So you wouldn't remove CPR from the First-aid merit badge, but Coin Collecting isn't First-aid, and varies in how it is done from collector to collector. No 2 people collect coins alike, and only those things they do that are similar are the core of coin collecting: sorting your collection, keeping a record, having some way to view, store, identify them, etc. like handling, emergency care, personal safety after handling coins.

There is no 1 correct way to collect coins, and what is in the current book last time I read it, and the one when I got the badge, way not correct at all from my point of view. Just remember the merit badge is for teaching, not for wasting money of those getting t6he badge.People have different amounts of money they can just throw at a hobby as not all scouts have rich parents, and some may come from impoverished families and scouts might be the only activity they can afford. No point in making the scouts feel bad about their life just to get a merit badge.
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 Posted 07/16/2015  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JESP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it definitely could be better for many of the badges, though as a counselor you do have some leeway to change things up.

There is the sort of brainless way of scouts just going by the book, filling out answers to requirement questions, and only seeing a counselor when they are finished to get the needed signature. Though the requirements are met, it is easy for scouts not to really learn what the badge is about.

On the other end if scouts and counselors meet more than once, and there is actually some teaching going on rather than just making an appointment to get a signature, its a much better process. In that situation a counselor can lay out expectations, they being the ones to choose what optional requirements the scouts would do, and if needed what sort of substitutions could be used and improve the experience.

Certainly there are places things could be cut or added. I think the inclusion of bills sort of makes sense in a way, since they are also legal tender, and understanding what that means is a requirement. Strictly speaking though, mention of bills doesn't really need to be there.

Also, a counselor isn't synonymous with camp counselor. It just means you've been accepted by the scouting organization as qualified to teach scouts about the badge subject.
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 Posted 07/17/2015  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The coin collecting Merit Badge is and has been a scam since it was created. It shouldn't include bills or stamps, just because they are similarly collected.

I don't believe it has anything about stamps (and I think there is a separate stamp collecting badge). If the part about the notes bothers you maybe we should rename it the Numismatics Merit Badge. (Also fits with the token identification option in there.)

I will agree though the the badge is too easy to earn. It used to be worse. back when I was a counselor it was possible by choosing the right options to earn the badge and only collect five coins. I once had four scouts earn the badge while they were at summer camp while they were camping out in the woods! They were able to "collect" the coins they needed just from the packet change of the scouts in the camp. It was a joke.
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