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1921 Morgan Dollar (Philadelphia), Grade/Opinions? VAM 3B1?

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Was going through some old circulated Morgans in 2x2s I have stashed in an album, and thought I had weeded out the better ones, but this one caught my eye because of the die breaks obverse/reverse and the pitted reverse.

Looks like a VAM 3B1 to me, but I'm no expert. Has pitted reverse through D. Obverse has die crack through date, out to 2nd star, to rim; then from 3rd star all the way to E; starts again at the rim directly across from the M and runs all the way around the stars to the last 1 in the date. Reverse has scribbles between both talons; a stronger die crack from between the eagle's right wing tip/the S in STATES, going through all of STATES, and starting again at the O, going through left wing tip, and from rim to A through AMER, and from last A through star, ending at the base of the R in DOLLAR. It also has a die chip/lump in the denticles to the bottom right of the O in DOLLAR, and some pitting in the wreath above the O.

I think it's circulated, and possibly cleaned.

It's also probably a details grade because of the rim ding on the reverse.

Anyone want to take a shot at the numerical grade, surfaces, and my VAM theory?

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1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

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1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

1921-Morgan-Dollar-Philadelphia,-Grade/Opinions?-VAM-3B1?

Thanks for looking - Adam
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 Posted 07/18/2015  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea on VAM type, but XF details IMHO.
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XF details, improperly cleaned.
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I agree with 3B1. Nice find.
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It's a nice example of the VAM even with the cleaning, at least.
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3B1 it is, pre-clash. The lump in the denticles below the O in DOLLAR is diagnostic. I'm OK with XF Details.
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EF-40 details.
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Xf-45 details
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Going into a 2x2 as XF details, cleaned, VAM 3B1. Thank you all very much :)
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