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 Posted 07/23/2015  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks legit to me.

Looks like a good price at $20 shipped. The local coin store is charging $22 for culls at the moment (no holes, not bent, and much worse than your coin).
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 Posted 07/24/2015  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think my next step is to decide what kind of Peace dollars I want to collect! I'm still trying to decide if I want to get them slabbed or not. If so, what is good # to get them at? MS62, 63, 64? Tough decisions!
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 Posted 07/24/2015  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My fist set was a Peace dollar collection. It started off a raw collection and buying the raw Mint State coins on ebay. I decided that I wanted to have the raw coins graded by NGC after collecting about 12 coins and I submitted the coins to NGC. This was my first lesson on grading and ebay sellers not providing coins as described as most of the coins came back from NGC at a lower grade than expected and I also got a couple detail grades. The biggest problem that I had with grading a Peace dollar was telling a AU 58 from a MS 61 or 62. I did have some dumb luck as I made a nice $500 grading score on a key date 1934 S that made up for most of my grading losses. The same seller that sold me the 1934 s stung me on another raw coin. I completed the set by buying slab coins and upgrading some of my errors, but it was a very good ebay and grading lesson.

The set and grade that you do is going to be dependent on your budget. Once you have your budget get a price guide for all the grades and map out your set. When you are learning start buying the least expensive coins, so you get some feedback about your purchase. Collecting coins is a marathon not a sprint, so when you start buying take your time, and get the best coin you can for the dollar spent.
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 Posted 07/24/2015  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that's some good advice about it being a marathon not a sprint. Which coin grading agencies do you trust? I was thinking ms63 or 64 is appropriate. 65 seems too high. Some of the rare dates seem to be pretty high in great shape!
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 Posted 07/25/2015  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would recommend that you purchase NGC or PCGS slabs. ANACS grades are fine but the coins are harder to resale. I crossed all my ANACS coins to PCGS.

1921 Peace dollar - buy the coin in any MS grade with a solid strike and the hair details above the ear. To find a quality coin with nice luster and a solid strike will challenge you, but it is highly collectable. These coins typically have a flat spot above the ear. On the grade the strike is not taken into consideration until the coin is graded above MS65 and some of the MS 1921 Peace dollars will have a greyish luster and poor eye appeal.

I have MS64s in the common dates because I did not want to put my money into common coins, MS 63, 62 and 61 in most of the better dates and a AU 55 for the 1934 S.

I still have two better date AU 58s that I purchased raw that I thought were MS, but graded AU 58. I have not upgraded these Peace dollars because I started a Morgan slab collection.

Try to buy coins with good eye appeal that other collectors would want as the coins will be much easier to sell and have greater value on resale.
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 Posted 07/25/2015  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for taking the time to give me all that good info. The other day I ordered a 24-s for $26 (looked EF+) and a very common 22 (looked AU) for $21. Both unslabbed. I may have slightly overpaid but I wanted to get a better feel for the coin details since I only own one. I think I'm going to go the stabbed route with your recommendations. I always thought anacs was trusted but I did some more research and you're right, seems like pcgs and ngc are the top graders. As you mentioned this is going to be a test of patience to get the best coins for my money. Thanks again I really appreciate it!
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 Posted 07/25/2015  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you buy slabbed coins I find it hard to keep track of the dates. That is why for common coins I get the Dansco albums. I have three complete sets. The albums are easy to store. If you have a hundred slabbed coins where do you store them and keep them in order?
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I keep my slab coins in a slab binder and the coins are viewable both obverse and reverse with a flip of a page. Inside the cover there is a clear plastic holder for a paper insert to log each coin and keep track of purchase price, date, mint, ETC in the holder space. This binder has 3 pages of 9 coins per page and there are 24 Peace dollars, so one binder holds all Peace dollars. If there are missing coins, there are holes just like a coin album for raw coins. I set up the coins in order by date and mint mark. I do not like to keep my slab coins in a slab tray.

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 Posted 07/25/2015  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that is nice. I never really heard of a slab binder. Where did you buy the slab binder, or did you make it yourself? I have a complete set of Peace dollars all in a Dansco album except for a 1926 in AU-58 in a slab. I have it all in a safe deposit box. Since you obviously like Big Silver Coins which other ones are you collecting? I have collected a full set of LWH dollars, Peace dollars and Franklin Halfs. Now I am working on buying the higher mintage Morgans in BU condition. I also have about 2/3 of a LSQ set. The LSQ's are challenging but doable. The Silver Eagles are now collectible also and a good value I think. The Morgan complete set is probably not doable at present, but it a goal to aspire to fill. I bought a 1878-S Morgan in BU condition for $65. Do you ever consider buying slabbed Saint-Guadens like 1913-S which are not that expensive and yet have very low mintage? There are at least 3-4 St. Gaudens that have mintage less than 100,000 and yet they are not much more expensive than much more common coins of that set.
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This slab binder is made by a company called Eagle. You can check out the company online eaglecoinholder.com.

I really like collecting raw coins, but there is too much risk in collecting high end coins, and I buy most all my coins online from photo. I had about 70 total raw coins both Peace and Morgan. I either sold or submitted the raw coins for grading and I now have only 3 raw common date Morgans that I will most likely give away as a gift to my grandkids. I now only buy slab coins.

When you start getting your raw coins graded, you find out in a hurry how good your grading skills really are.

I have been considering doing a custom gold coin collection, but I would need to most likely sell off my Peace dollar collection. I would not at this time sell off my Morgan collection as I find the coins fascinating.
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 Posted 07/28/2015  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brian34Jersey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But now the Chinese are making fake slabs, it's almost not worth taking the risk.
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If you buy a photograded coin from NGC you can match up the Knicks and scratches

And be careful of Littleton their a rip off
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 Posted 07/28/2015  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just don't buy coins online anymore. I am sick of being asked to "judge the condition of the coin yourself" from a photo. I just don't understand why the sellers usually won't state a coin grade and then stand behind it. I have a couple of LCS's I do business with and they are good. I do find it irksome that I can't find the coins I want all the time. My only other option is to go to coin shows and there are a lot of them within 40 miles of me. I have a Peace dollar set. That is a great set to start collecting. It is small enough and inexpensive enough to complete without spending $10,000. What is the average grade of your Peace dollars? Are most in Unc. condition? Mine are not, but probably EF condition except for the 1928 which is in AU. I am obsessive compulsive enough to want to fill in all the holes in a set. The LSQ's are giving me a fit right now. I am not paying $10000 for a dinky 1916 quarter in EF. I know they are rare but that is just too much. If I can find one with a readable date I will buy it.
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 Posted 08/16/2015  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slider - do either of these 1921's have the hair details on the ear like you mentioned?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27194956490...RK:MEBIDX:IT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-P-Libe...em3aafcae0d9

Thanks!
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The first coin for $339 has a better strike between the two coins. There is still a flat spot in the hair near the cheek. The strike on this one is not bad, but the coin will not command a premium because of a solid strike. You can find a 1921 with a better strike.
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Here is an example for sale on ebay that shows the details in the hair above the ear. The seller is asking for a premium because of the solid strike. I am not recommending you buy this coin as the seller does not offer refunds as I just want to show you an example.


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