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1958 D DDO Inquiry

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 Posted 07/19/2015  2:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinvarietyseeker67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi
well I found a wheat coin 1958 d. there is like a doubling in the numbers. but no doubling in all the letter.
here is a pic

please help if this coin has some value.

thanks

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to CCF. It is called Machine Doubling,has little to no value above face.
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thank you very much.
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MD shows a flatter image behind the main image and also makes the devices looks smaller, where a doubled die will make them wider.

http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/m...oubling.html
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CWB, thanks for that pointer! I struggle mightily with what is a DD and what isn't. Per your comment, a legit DD has the same thickness as the original devices, right?
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This is a pic Coop let's me use. It should help you.
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MD on date and mint mint. (When both are affected in the same direction, it usually happened during the strike)
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a legit DD has the same thickness as the original devices, right?


No, look at the photo Coop just posted. See how the original 0 looks narrower than normal and the doubled die looks wider?
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look at the photo Coop just posted

Cwb, I assume you are referring to to the Welcome sign. lol
CVS67, I know how you feel.

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The big DDO for this year shows no doubling on the date.
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Here is a 1957 with the same type of machine damage on the date:
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Cwb, I assume you are referring to to the Welcome sign


Ha, I guess you're right!
I just saw it was one of Coop's photos, I guess I didn't pay any attention to who posted it.
Sorry!
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I don't mind anyone using them. Sometimes they put the idea across when the poster is still on the forum. That is the purpose for my images.
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MD on date and mint mint. (When both are affected in the same direction, it usually happened during the strike)
True until 1990 when the mint stopped hand punching the mint mark http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=eds
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True until 1990 when the mint stopped hand punching the mint mark


It would still be true after 1990. MD doesn't care when the mint mark was added.

EDIT: Ah, I see what you're saying now. They can both have the doubling as a doubled die, but they can still both be MD too.
I need to think before I post.
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Not a problem, cwb, as we all know Coop takes the best pictures. He told me before it was okay if I used them.
I think John1 is right, the saying originated because the MM's were punched into the die separately. So if both date and MM were doubled, usually it was Strike Doubling. I also agree with Coop. It still applies today, as there are more strike doublings than doubled dies. If the date and MM are in the same direction, the odds go up even more for Strike Doubling.

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I need to think before I post.

Who does that? lol
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