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1920 Pilgram

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 Posted 07/23/2015  11:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add razorblaydejr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Let me know your thoughts on grade for this Pilgram Commem that I picked up this week.

Thanks for your input and always!

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 Posted 07/23/2015  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice MS65?
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 Posted 07/23/2015  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impossible to offer an educated opinion based on the photos provided.

I'm at MS-something.

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 Posted 07/23/2015  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorblaydejr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See attached David

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 Posted 07/24/2015  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is magnificent! MS65 or might make 66. Call it 65+!
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The toning on that is stunning!
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 Posted 07/27/2015  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-65. Nice color!
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I'll go with 66. Fantastic coin!
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MS65+/MS66 Nice pickup!
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 Posted 07/28/2015  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorblaydejr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I absolutely love this Pilgrim! It is stunning to look at. It's currently in a 'details' holder. I'm thinking about taking it out and resubmitting it to PCGS/NGC. Give me your opinions on that please. Thanks.

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these half dollar comms are my all time favs I'm still missing a few to complete my collection
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It's in an ANACS slab, so the opinion is less than reliable IMHO. Consider "MS 60 Details" - huh? Maybe "Uncirculated Details", but surely this is better than a 60! Send it to PNG; they know toning better than anyone. ANACS has a poor reputation for consistency and this is just another example of why.
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You're right, it's much better than 60. That number is assigned because they put 'details' on the holder. At the time it was slabbed, this was their default number for Unc details, and 50 for AU details, so on and so forth down the line.

I leaning toward cracking and submitting to PCGS.
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After you posted the 2nd set of pictures...I questioned my 1st opinion but thought I'd wait. There do appear to be issues with the coin - you can see hairlines around the word states and also near the star to the left under United on the obverse... and now that I see the toning again - it does look like it highlights the images - but isn't really toned the same across the images. It looks toned in the fields - but not toned on the Pilgrim or Ship?

Still an interesting coin.
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 Posted 07/29/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorblaydejr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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... There do appear to be issues with the coin - you can see hairlines around the word states and also near the star to the left under United on the obverse...


What you're seeing there are die polish lines. They're not hairlines, although I can see how one might think that from photos and not being able to see the coin in hand. I see that same thing you're talking about with the toning at the very highest points on the reverse. I'm in the coin for a good price, so it might be worth sending it in with my other lot on my next submission. I'll keep you posted if I do. Thanks again.
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