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Pillar of the Community
United States
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1892-CC-5-G...em3f50ede1a9I'm not questioning authenticity right off the bat, but what would cause a coin to lose all its detail the way this one has? The hair detail is OK for AU, but the shield and motto ribbon details are completely gone. The fields are pocked and rippled. I'm thinking maybe it's overplated. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The seller stating it is removed from jewelry can be a cover to hide the fact that this might be a casted coin. Pretty much trying to hide in plain sight kind of thing. Anyway,would not spend that much money on a raw gold coin. Especially one that looked like acid has been eating away at the surfaces for years.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I do not like it.
What in the world would cause pitting on a "real" gold coin like that?
Yes, he says it was in jewelry, but that sure as heck isn't a reason for that very deep pitting.
I just cannot imagine a situation where gold would pit that way.
I'd consider my day complete if someone would hop on and give us a reason so I could learn one MORE thing today!
...but...I do not like it...
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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There are many harsh chemicals that could have produced this effect. It may have been a disaster and was treaated to "clean up" the overall appearance before it was mounted. Just a guess.
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Valued Member
United States
258 Posts |
My first thought was that it was a dug coin that had been cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3343 Posts |
It's so ugly I have doubts about it being a copy. The dentils are sharp, but the stars and the hair look like they're globbed with excess metal. I had a silver dollar which had been plated to hide a plug but it looked a lot better than this.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
United States
819 Posts |
it could be poured and the pitting was caused by air bubbles. there for making it fake.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
I have a very good friend who is a doctor at Mayo Clinic who uses every chemical known to man.
When we were working on a book (on tokens) together, we often went to his lab to take the photos. Back when you had to have a real photo set up to do so.
He told me that the ONLY thing that could dissolve gold was an acid called Aqua Regia. I don't remember what the components were (other acids, I do remember) but he was quite insistent that nothing else would dissolve gold.
I think the chances of a gold coin coming in contact with such a brew is pretty darned slim.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5417 Posts |
Very likely it is a fake (95%). This kind of pitting isn't just caused by being in jewelry.
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Valued Member
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I wouldn't buy it unless it was authenticated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
932 Posts |
To give you a hint, the sellers name could also be read as "coin sand paper"
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6478 Posts |
Just looks like a cast counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: the ONLY thing that could dissolve gold was an acid called Aqua Regia That is true for pure 24kt gold but classic gold coinage is 10% copper so it is subject to a certain level of corrosive action.
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New Member
Canada
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excellent point 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3343 Posts |
I think you're probably right silverstackerkid http://coinsweekly.com/en/Archive/8?&id=13&type=aPocking like this might come from heavy overplating but a really really bad casting is more likely. A lot of jewelry and buttons are made with cast replicas, this is probably the same deal.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 United States
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Aqua Regia is a combination of one part nitric acid and three parts hydrochloric acid. The former is capable of dissolving copper, but the latter is not and I can't see a proper alloy mix being selectively dissolved in this fashion. I'd be surprised if this coin is gold.
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