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1968-S Lincoln Memorial Cent Toned.

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Looking for thoughts about grade for this 1968-S LMC -- and wondering whether it's ever worth while sending a coin like this in for certification / third party grading (that is, not necessarily a high grade coin - but one with a certain amount of eye-appeal).

I pulled this out of an obw roll.

It's been a while, but I'm thinking it may have been one of the end coins.

1968-S-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Toned.

1968-S-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Toned.

1968-S-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Toned.

1968-S-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Toned.

1968-S-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Toned.

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IMHO,not worth a TPG.
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 Posted 08/07/2015  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadaCoinCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I belive the grade will only come out genuine because of the artificial colour
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I am known for not caring much for TPG coins, so my saying to not send it carries that bias.

That being said, it is a nice looking cent and worth keeping. In my opinion, any premium would be for what it is and not the container (2x2 or slab) which holds it.
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 Posted 08/07/2015  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing chemical damage, not toning.
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Beautiful reverse color. but don't send it in to TPG. as nice as the reverse is it has a very bad scratch running vertical in the middle of the steps.
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 Posted 08/07/2015  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rayof315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for the helpful discussion.

Good catch on the steps; I didn't even see that.

I think that more often than not, the beauty and value and even authenticity of toned coins is in the eye of the beholder.
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superdave , can I ask why you think this is a chemical burn? OP says it came out of an OBW roll and possibly an ender. besides who would put chemicals on only one side of the coin ?
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authenticity of toned coins is in the eye of the beholder.


Absolutely not. It just takes a collegiat level of academic study as well as looking at thousands of toned coins of each base metal type. I can tell an AT morgan from NT without hesitation but coppers can get me in terms of the actual colors produced. Learn the basics of color progression and causation and it will help you alot. Here's the best educational site about toning, albeit morgan specific but the basic truths are there...

http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp

And here's some pretty coins

http://100greatestrainbows.com/index.html

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No way I'd get it slabbed, not worth the expense.

Since it's a nice looking coin and has eye appeal, just rinse it with acetone and put it into an airtite holder to keep it from changing further.

On another note, one thing to search for on the 1968-S (lowest mintage Memorial cent) is full and complete steps. It's hard to find one with that!
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I like to collect toned coins, occasionally do buy them on line (usually of the older silver variety), but mostly like to find my own - usually by looking through lincoln rollis that already suggest some toning on the end coins.

I'm no expert, but I do know that the kind of toning that takes place inside a roll is not infrequently different from the, "bullseye" kind of toning that comes from (I'm assuming) a coin sitting outside the roll.

You do find bullseye toning in-roll, but the toning that show's up can also be all over the place (and all over the coin in no particular pattern)- from subtle pastels to wild metallics. I have found some coins in roll, that I've doubted would ever be certified by a TPG, but which nevertheless I'm as sure as can be occurred "naturally".
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Any thanks for the references. What I find interesting, is that I would have passed up many of the coins on the last listing you gave as clearly artificially toned. Especially the Jefferson.

The reason, I say "in the eye of the beholder", is because I wish there was, but am not sure there is, enough of an exact science about it to determine unequivocally what is real/natural toning and what has been artificially induced. Maybe sometime in the future. (Except, of course, in obvious extreme cases).

I've also seen lots of slabbed coins (especially some silver America Eagles), that I (again, personally) think "no way in the time allotted (sometimes just a few years), that that much toning occurred without somehow being rushed along. And yet, they're slabbed and certified.

Just some thoughts of a relatively new (going on 7 years now) collector. Thanks
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