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My Old Avatar - Middlesex 905: Summers Wild Mans Head Update

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I can't find much info on this coin still. I didn't know until I started my contest that it had "Summers" on the coin. If anyone can find some more info on this I'd be forever grateful!

Congrats dan on winning my obscure contest!
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 Posted 01/07/2008  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
love the spelling: "Summers's Museum" - immortalized in bronze.

The Land of Jesso -
see: "A Narrative of Some Observations Made upon Several Voyages, Undertaken to Find a Way for Sailing about the North to the East-Indies, and for Returning the Same Way from Hence Hither: Together with Instructions Given by the Dutch East-India Company For the Discovery of the Famous Land of Jesso Near Japan. To Which is Added a Relation of Sailing through the Northern America to the East-Indies. Englished by the Publisher Out of Dutch, Which Had Been Compos'd by Dirick Rembrantz van Nierop, and Printed at Amsterdam. 1674."

William Barentz attempted to open this route in 1594 & again in 1596, without success.
After the VOC efforts, the region was further explored in 1738 by Spanbergen; La Perouse in 1787; and Broughton in 1794
THe Land of Jesso is shown in an atlas of Asia published by Gibson of London in 1753:
http://www.cartography.henny-saveni...bson_jpg.htm
look at 140 deg East and 50 deg North.

"A new geographical, historical, and commercial grammar ..." by William Guthrie, 1843: "...geographers delineated as they pleased the famous land of Jesso; it was made either a continent, or a large island between Asia and Japan."

It is interesting to wonder whether Jesso is a misdescription of the chain of islands between Japan, and the Kamchatka Peninsula. Nowadays known as the Kuril Islands.


Hope this helps: lovely coin, bythe way. What size is it ?
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It is classed as a Conder Token, apparently listed as Dalton & Hamer Middlesex 905 and 906, possibly extending up to 912. I say "apparently" because it's not listed in my 1970 edition of "British Tokens and their Values". Presumably the authors decided it's not "tokenish" enough? All I know for sure is there's a gap in my book between 904 and 913. A search of CoinArchives for "Summer AND 1797" shows three hits, all tokens of this type (one #905 and two #906). Apparently, they're not cheap. The one GO pictured above sold for GB£520.

I can tell you a bit about the "Land of Jesso": it never really existed. It was a cartographer's space-filler, much like the Great South Land, only smaller. It was purported to be a large island to the north of Japan. Early European explorers discovered and charted Honshu, the main island of Japan, fairly accurately, but had a little difficulty charting the islands to the north.

Check out the maps on this page, especially this one from the 1750's. So "Jesso" can be said to be a combination of Hokkaido, Sakhalin and southeast Siberia. The indigenous group known as the Ainu are native to both Hokkaido and Sakhalin, so the unfortunate "wild man" was presumably of that ethnic group. The alternative, of course, is that the head wasn't a real human head, and that Mr Summers crafted it himself. He would then have chosen "Jesso", on the far side of the world, because nobody would have known any better to contradict him.

The "Museum" was located in London, here near Oxford Street. There doesn't seem to be any trace of the business left there now.
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Thanks for the info so far guys!

I've been searching all over for info on the business itself. Once I figure out more of my genealogy and hve the money I'll be traveling to England to further trace my family's history
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I want to buy this coin but I've yet to find one for the right price. I'm don't wanna spend $1000 on it. Anyone know of any place that has this coin for cheapish?

Thanks!
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Sorry, GO, I don't think these come "cheapish". Their absence from my token book indicates they didn't end up in circulation, so (a) there probably weren't too many made, and (b) most of the surviving specimens are likely to be high grade.
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