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1875-CC Dime

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Picked this up off ebay. What grade does she make? The wear pattern seems different between the obverse & reverse.

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Indeed it is. I think it would have to be graded AG-03 - the reverse is just too far gone.
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Sorry - no matter how nice the obverse looks, there are no discernible rims left on the reverse. This would never make G-04 at a TPG.

If anyone can cite a photo grading reference that shows a G-04 that looks like this, please advise!

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You're right lol.
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Its a split grade between the obverse and reverse IMO
I also don't think it much matters what a " TPG" might say as much as it matters what known grading standards are and certain points that can be made debatable.

My best guess is an F-113 die marriage due to the MM location and potentially a weaker strike on the reverse over O(N)E D(IM)E that has been exaggerated by wear. Reverse G, seen on F-111, degenerated on those exact reverse areas of "one dime" so its confusing to me on the reverse die of your coin as the MM does not match up with Reverse G but Reverse I. Would the reliefs suffer weaker strikes as the die degenerated further? Could be. I'd like to hear from some experts regarding that.
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Definitely a split grade.

I am no expert here, just giving an opinion on a net grade. I am sure everything you suggest is correct, and I am impressed by your knowledge.

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I have noticed that Lib Seated coinage, like Barber coinage, tends to wear faster on the reverse than the obverse. I don't know why that is the case, but I sure do see a lot more split grade coins than other series. My personal opinion is G4/AG3 split grade.

Why did the industry do away with split grades / net grade anyway? It was, to me, a very useful system when ANACS used it in the 80s. You could send a coin for a photo-certificate/authentication and it would come back as something like MS63 obverse / MS61 reverse, net MS62, or whatever. They did that for details coins, too, you could send in a MS coin with some sort of issue and it could come back as MS-63, issues, net EF-45. This gave dealers and collectors an approximation of how much to devalue the coin to compensate for the severity of the damage or issues.



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Thank you for the replies, especially dsfreeworld & paralyse for the detailed information. That's why I love CCF, always learning something new! I wish we still had split grades, too.
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Way too much wear on reverse for a good. AG-3
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AG-03, or an AG-3.5, which is a dealer grade.

I still think AG-3.5 should be implemented into the grading scale; only for certain circumstances like so. Seems to happen quite frequently more with AG-G borderline coins rather than anything else.
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