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1983 Quarter Copper Swirl/Streak, Error Coin?

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 Posted 08/13/2015  2:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Peter777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm new to this. Can anyone give me information on this quarter? There seems to be a copper swirl/streak going through it. Is it an error coin? If so, can I get an estimated value on it?
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Looks like crayon or lipstick.
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Your picture needs to be larger to see what exactly is going on with it.
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A larger picture would be very helpful.
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to CCF!

I cannot tell if it is some kind of mark made on the coin or not. One thing that comes to mind is the possibility of an "Intrinsic Metallic Inclusion"

You can read about them here:

http://www.error-ref.com/?s=intrins...43;inclusion

But we do need closer photos - of both Obverse and Reverse.
Thanks for posting!
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Pete2226: This could be possibly true for a solid planchet like the pre 1982 cents, nickels, silver coinage. But the coin posted was a clad. So I feel it would be a partial cladding issue:
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=partial+cladding

But better images would be a GREAT help.
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I think I remember seeing a similar type copper color pattern on some State Quarters that was due to wire being rolled into the planchet during production. The rim looks interesting too suggesting that this is an error and not coloring on the coin, a close up of that area would help as well.
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Quote:
Pete2226: This could be possibly true for a solid planchet like the pre 1982 cents, nickels, silver coinage. But the coin posted was a clad. So I feel it would be a partial cladding issue


Thanks coop - I see and understand. Why didn't I think about that?
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Thanks for all the information so far! I have posted a much better quality photo of the coin!
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to CCF. Mike where are you? To me it looks like some kind of an error. Where did you get it?
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Is the Copper looking area raised or incuse?
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The new image is much better The presence of deep gouges leads me to believe that it is some sort of pre-strike damage to the reverse clad layer. The transition between the copper core and cupronickel cladding appears as expected for a missing clad error, see the quarter pictured below. An accurate weight should determine how much cladding was lost. Nice error, value can be difficult to determine with oddballs like that one but I would guess that it would be worth at least $25.

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This is a rolled-in carbon steel bristle from a rotating descaling brush that's used to clean the clad and core strip. As is often the case, the bristle was trapped between the core strip and clad strip. The clad strip split as it was pressed down on the bristle by the rollers. Part of this bristle fell out before rolling was completed while some has been retained. You'll find it's attracted to a magnet.
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Now who the heck would have thought about that except you mike.

Do you come across them often?
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Cool error coin. I learned some new information from your post and the knowledgeable collectors here.


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I come across these every once in awhile. They go back to at least the early 1970s and continue up to the present. They appear in clad denominations from dimes to half dollars. I suspect they can be found in all denominations.
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