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Explanation For The Circular Motion On The REV Of Nickel...

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I came across this 1962 D Jefferson nickel and noticed the swirling in middle of building on the reverse. Also seems to go through to obverse as well....Any thoughts? Error? Thanks!

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Pretty sure its PMD

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Appears to be some form of post strike damage. No process at the mint would cause this type of appearance. Maybe damage from a Gumball Machine or something similar?
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It's pretty common damage. Some kind of turnstile witness mark is my guess.
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I always thought this was coin roller damage
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So no value I take it? Thanks for the info!
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Yep, no value; sorry! It is damage that was done outside the mint ( PMD) so it's not really collectable...
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I've seen that on a few nickles. But only on nickles. I'm guessing it has to do with a brand of coincounter or something like that
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Blue - coin roller damage is generally on the outer third of the coin. This damage is on center. But even most of the turnstiles I can think of don't turn the coin on center. Not sure how...but there are plenty of specimens.
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Quote:
It's pretty common damage.

But I'm not sure why, just PMD.
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Maybe it is some kind of coin roller damage. Either way, I'd have to say many a nice coin has been compromised by this unnamed assassin!!
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True Rackster, I figured I only see this on the 60s and younger coins and the damage never looks fresh. It's usually worn down damage so it might have been some machine dealing with coins that has since been obsolete (likely for this reason)
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i have seen an old metal tube coin holder, that has a slot to push the coins into (a bit like a pez dispenser). the opt had a sort of turnstyle that screwed a metal piece down against the coins - leaving a similar look. a friend of mine had a ful roll of mercurcy dime in that tpye of holder - and the top coin had the same type of damage.

i have never actually seen a similar nickel holder - but they are probably out there.
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i have seen an old metal tube coin holder, that has a slot to push the coins into (a bit like a pez dispenser)


Makes me think of riding a bus in the '40s and '50s. The driver had a change making gizmo attached to his belt. There were metal tubes for each type of coin with a lever at the bottom of each tube which he could press to dispense the coin of whatever denomination he wanted. There was a slot at the top to put the coin in. I am not saying that this is what caused the damage, however.

Here is one which is similar to what I remember:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Con...271972114452

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see other examples.
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Cool! Great info and thanks for all of the replys! Back to the hunt! :)
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Blue/Pete/db,

Interesting thoughts. It has me wondering; what is the date range for this kind of damage? It does normally look pretty worn, so damage done early and worn with time. I'll keep an informal tally with the next box; newest with/oldest with.

Someone here must know though. I'm hoping that they see this thread!
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