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Thoughts On Dark Toned Coins

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 Posted 09/01/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting everyone !!
What I was really trying to get at with this post was everyone's view on really dark toning and at what point has it progressed to far !!
That was my original concern with the coin in my first post .. None the less I appreciate everyone's opinions and for posting.
Since the coin in question has a very dark patina I was wondering at what point will TPGs consider a really dark coin to be a details or problem coin? As I had mentioned in my first post this coin is one of the darkest I've seen in a problem free holder from one of the top company's.
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 Posted 09/01/2015  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A TPG designating "environmental damage" on a coin happens. You'd want to search auction archives on Heritage and just look and look until you locate and see enough examples. High Res imagery on that sight is second-to-none and you can get a heckuva education if you put the time in.

Here is a coin that could have gone either way when I picked it up raw for only $80 on ebay. Instead, PCGS found in its favor and gave it an EF40.

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 Posted 09/01/2015  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin wasn't too dark to pull a very controversial MS67 full grade:

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This one is MS65 full grade, and equally likely to start a fight as the first:

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 Posted 09/02/2015  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice coins guys , so I guess there is a pretty fine line when it comes to TPG labeling a coin as environmental damaged or problem free ..
I would guess that with each company that line would differ a bit similar to the difference in their grading standards ..
Even though the coin is a little darker than I normally go for I still like the coin and I feel like I got it for a good price ..
I've watch a couple AU 50 1903o dimes sell at auction in the 80 dollar range this past month and when the opportunity to buy one for 50 came along I felt Id be a fool to pass on it ..

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 Posted 09/02/2015  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@paralyse - wow! great looking quarters! I love how the paper from those early 50's mint sets laid that gorgeous tone on those coins.

@coinguy - you got a great deal for $50 IMO on that dime. Enjoy it for many years to come!
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