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Are These Ottoman Coins Authentic?

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 Posted 09/22/2015  09:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BobbyV to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I purchased these coins on ebay about a month ago, and I just want to make sure they are authentic. The ones in the first link are from Albania, and the ones in the second link are from Bulgaria (I didn't know yet about the issue of Bulgarian counterfeit coins). Thanks ahead of time for your help!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14175874461...RK:MEBIDX:IT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18185054745...RK:MEBIDX:IT

(For a good view of the pictures you have to click "see original listing" and scroll down a little).
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 Posted 09/22/2015  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look ok.
Used on the costume of a belly danser
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 Posted 09/22/2015  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This are all costume pieces and are not ancient or medieval coins.
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So they are not Ottoman coins? Should I try to return them since the descriptions were false?
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I don't see anything to suggest that they would be counterfeits...

I personally wouldn't return them, but that's my opinion.
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I wondered, because I saw some being sold by a CCF member which looked very similar (and which I was thinking of purchasing--I had also bought a Roman coin lot from him, and for a moment there I was questioning both).

Earlier I did a little research on Ottoman coin types and saw some that were a lot thicker and heavier than these, as well as some that were about the same thickness and general weight and that had the same types of holes in them.
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To reiterate and clarify what echizento said: Yes, they appear to be genuine Ottoman coins. Yes, they have been "damaged" for attachment to ornamentation, most likely a woman's festive garments though other things were similarly decorated - a common fate for Ottoman silver and gold coins. They aren't ancient or mediaeval; while I can't see a clear date on any of the coins in batch 1 and only a few in batch 2, but they appear to be of the style of the 1600s and 1700s.
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Thanks for that clarification, Sap! I forgot that the Ottoman empire lasted until the early twentieth century, haha. I always picture them fighting the Byzantines in 1453 when I think of them. For further clarification, though, what exactly is considered to be the end of the Medieval period?
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It's a bit fuzzy; different folks who collect different kinds of coins tend to put the mediaeval/modern boundary in different places. For me personally, the cutoff date is 1450. The working definition, for this forum, is that anything prior to 1600 can qualify as "mediaeval", since that's as far back as the Krause modern world coin catalogues go.
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