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Need Help Iding A Carolus And Johanna Spanish Dollar

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I can't seem to find an example that matches exactly online, but I think it is an early Mexico coin?

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As always, great info. Thank you.
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This is a nice, Late Series, one real of Juana y Carlos from Mexico with "G-M" assayer. That combination is a slightly better assayer but still fairly common within the series. It has no date but would have been made in the mid 1540s - 1550s. The one real denomination is represented by a single dot at center between the Pillars. The shield side is the obverse. It appears to be acquiring new toning after an old cleaning, seen as darkness at the rims from an old coin holder. It is a great example of early New World money.
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@Pistareen. Thank you. I am planning to put it up for sale. Would it be Ok to use some of your post to describe it?
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Sure enough, OK to quote me a little. For a wee bit of history, a pair of silver reales of Charles and Johanna of Mexico, much like this coin, were unearthed in a Native American burial mound along Spruce Creek, a tributary of the Halifax River in Eastern Florida back in the winter of 1871. Identified as a funerary deposit (circa 1550s), one of the coins was still resting in the eye socket of a skull, deemed a "Charon's Obol" after the ancient practice of paying the shadowy boatman to cross the River Styx. This find was reported in correspondence from "S.C.C" of Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, "Opening of a Burial Mound in Florida," from the American Journal of Numismatics, (AJN) Vol 6, #1 of July 1871, page 16. The theory is that numerous Spanish ships were wrecked on the coast of the Spanish colony of La Florida, in the 16th century with some coins from those wrecks salvaged by the Native Americans who wore gold and silver ornaments. See "Numismatic Finds of the Americas" by John M. Kleeberg, Numismatic Notes and Monographs #169 of the American Numismatic Society. I'm not sure if this information will help or hurt your sale, so use your own judgment.
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