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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Got this one from an ebay lot:   Pretty clear that this one is a 1810-A 10 Centimes of Napoleon I. However, NGC lists this particular issue as "unique": http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/...-duid-316973The lettering is a bit odd, but the wear certainly seems geniuine for this one. Any ideas what I have here? |
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United States
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Hi, Looks like you have found a real gem. I tried to find some other combination it could have been in my World Coins book and there is nothing else it could be. Nice find! Send it in for authentication and your name will be recorded as the discoverer. I do the same kind of thing and would have been really excited to find something like that. Keep looking, but I don't think you need any encouragement after that kind of a find.
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Belgium
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My french catalogue (Argus Thimonier) indicates : peu = few .THe metal has to be billon - silver/brass.This one looks only brass.Looking at cgb.fr I found the same coin as a fake in a better quality :www.cgb.fr ,go to :archives ,then at left :valeurs faciales , mark: 10 centimes, dates : 1810 , ateliers : Paris .In the comments they say there are no 10cent.coins of Paris for 1810.albert
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's the link to cgb's fake 1810A http://www.cgb.fr/faux-de-10-cent-a...83058,a.htmlThere were a lot of 1810 10 centimes made at the other mints but none at Paris. Whether this is a forgery or an alteration is hard to say, but yours is more the color of copper or brass than the billon alloy. Contemporary French counterfeits are quite valuable and this one is probably worth $50-100. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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What has me concerned is the extra strength of the second 1 in the date. I suppose that this could be a very well worn 1800 A that was punched with a custom-made 1 in an attempt to pass it off as a rarity. The coin does "feel" genuine at least--the billon is heavily toned, but does appear to match with the handful of other billon issues that I have from that era.
I'll wait for a few more opinions before I send it off for authentication, however.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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1800 A is a decime with date an 8 or 9 .This type of date and coin is beginning in 1807.albert
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ahh, yes you are correct. I had Googled a picture of a 1800A 10 centimes, and I now see that one was actually described as a contemporary fake on the webpage.
Does anyone know where to find a bit more info on these counterfeit pieces? Based on the wear, I assume they were made for circulation, but I am a bit confused as to why someone would put such care into a coin without much buying power? Or were they made after his defeat and exile to make a quick numismatic buck?
Also, since I am trying to maintain a "genuine coin only" policy for my collection, where would I go about selling this coin for its proper value?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There were 1800A 10 centimes, but apparently all are fakes, based on the real 1808A: http://www.cgb.fr/faux-de-10-cent-a...68070,a.htmlMaybe yours is a fake made from a fake, with a 1 badly struck over the 0? I don't know who your potential buyers are, but they are paying decently for coins like this. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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I would keep it , it is a very special coin and not easy to find .I have no idea where you could find that info.albert
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United States
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I have a couple fakes from this period of French desperation. They're physical evidence of the period Balzac and Hugo wrote about. Not treasures certainly, but not coins I'd part with.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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