Ebay Listing Mistakes!

I talking to a guy right now who has a 1917 walker that he says is a Philadelphia mint when it's clearly a San Fransciso s mint on front. He insists that it's phildelphia and thst the photos are correct. It's a real head banger trying to tell him to change the listing. To one of the other.

I also advised him that he was (and his partner) wrong. I received the exact same verbatim response from him as to gidjit. I then gave him my credentials (co-wrote the 2011 Charlton variety section) and helping proof all of Turner's books, but all I got was a "thank you" in response. I see that he has relisted it as an Obv 1 again, despite me telling him the 4 markers for an Obv 1 vs 2 of which his coin has zero. I put him on my "block seller" list for my ebay LC searches.

i then advised him that if someone buys this and finds out its the wrong coin that they could return it and he has to pay shipping both ways (global shipping @ $12.59 USD each way plus cost of coin)
and this was his response
"I am aware, but thank you. I appreciate your clarity.
Would you like to purchase the coin or not? If not then there's really nothing further to discuss."

Well said, kuh_85. Many religious people are the second type. No amount of science/evidence could change their minds, they would just make it somehow fit their theology. Check out this article...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7399661.stm

S&W Coins here. The ebay seller that you've been talking about, that'd be me. I'm here to represent my business and try to calm everyone down since this situation seems to have blown out of proportion despite my track record on ebay.

Thanks for painting me as a crook.

I'd like you all to know while identifying Canadian varieties isn't me or my partner's specialty we do care about our reputation. I've maintained top rated seller status on ebay for about 2 years now, and I didn't get there by lying to my customers or by not following through on my refund policy (full refund if at all dissatisfied with your purchase for ANY reason, which is in every single one of my listing descriptions). As a serious dealer, I will be sure to make good with you.

I realize now the resources I have on hand do not provide enough information. What you all were telling me was not in my books and so I thought there was no truth to what you were saying. Sorry, but "honest, sage advice" is hard to come by on the internet and I'm just a little bit suspicious of anyone on ebay after I've been burned a few times. In any case, I apologize for my lack of information and I'm better informed now.

That being said, I don't think you all realize how this sounds from my side. Who you claim to be through an anonymous email on the internet hardly matters to me or my business. Without a face or a name (or business card) I can't tell you from Adam. You could just as easily be some crooked dealer who thinks he can make a quick buck by buying a $300 coin off me for $5 by tricking me into thinking its the common variety, as you could be Mary Queen of Scots. In other words, I don't want to lose business or get bullied into making a mistake.

If it were something as simple as this,
"I talking to a guy right now who has a 1917 walker that he says is a Philadelphia mint when it's clearly a San Fransciso s mint on front"
rest assured I'd have no problem correcting my mistake--admittedly sometimes I do list a coin with the wrong pictures because I get the files mixed up--but I think we can all agree that identifying a particular variety is a bit trickier than distinguishing between a P and an S.

Lastly, none of you are ebay site moderators. There's no reason for you to take it upon yourselves to discredit my business or try to get me to change my listings simply because you say so. Whatever authority you think you might have goes out the window as soon as you log on to ebay. In the future, contact ebay customer support and let ebay staff handle it. For the record I have not been contacted once by ebay regarding these listings. I should also mention that I am relisting the large cent as the Obv 2 variety, and as for the nickel I have removed the listing and will send it for authentication.

Well put gbvbsite, could not agree more.

I realize that you don't get a feedback rating like that by being less than honest. My remarks were limited to the 1884 Obv 1 that you advertised and that you were contacted on by many more people than me that the listing was wrong. I think that we have done business in the past and I've had no problem. But I told you 3 different times the markers that were needed for an Obv 1 & 2 and you refused to say anything other than "I have talked this over with my partner and ...." and failed to budge from your Obv 1 stance. The email responses back to at least one other email commenter was verbatim, word for word, on what you sent back to me. The only conclusion that I could draw was that you didn't bother to look again at the coin, you refused to listen to reason, and refused to consider suggestions from the field. The newest newbie could contact you and ask you to look again at the coin .. it doesn't make any difference if you couldn't tell me from Adam or Mary Queeen of Scots. All you had to do was look at the coin and actually read what the people were saying.... all the markers were given to you as proof. I don't know what book(s) that you use as a reference but, if you are going to deal in Canadian material, you should at least have a Charlton or Haxby guide. You only had to go less than 10 pages into either of them, regardless the year or edition, and you would have seen (almost a full-page picture) that you had an Obv 2, not a #1.