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Grading Standards On Buffalo Nickels

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 Posted 01/19/2008  06:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rohumpy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have collected for many years and have some older books on grading--photograde and ANA standards. In browsing in the latest RedBook I noticed that the standard they give for VF of a Buffalo nickel is --much of horn must show-- In the older books I have it is unequivocal--tip of horn must show-- There is a real difference between much and tip.

I realize that the much requirement is somewhat subjective.

My question is this -- Have the grading standards for the VF grade changed? A dealer I asked said he still required the tip to show, and coins purchased from him verified this.
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 Posted 01/19/2008  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mr merc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANA grading standards 6th edition states for reverse vf-20 hair on head is worn. Point of horn is not always visible. vf-30 head, front leg, and hip are worn. Horn is worn but distinct on coins that are well struck. Photograde 18th edition vf-20 states "there will be a full horn but the top may not be well outlined. The hair on the bisons head will be well worn". Good strike vs weak strike is what you have to consider. Many coins were unevenly struck, if you could post a pic there are many experts here that may be able to help you.
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 Posted 01/19/2008  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the grading standards have changed over the years. The tip of the horn is no longer required for VF-20.
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 Posted 01/20/2008  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. At one time I knew where the RedBook got its grading summaries. Maybe ANA? I figured something had happened. Now I will have to regrade all my buffs.
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 Posted 01/20/2008  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still learning too, but it seems that the older a series is, the lower the grading standards are up to a certain point. I figure that the longer they have been in circulation, the rarer they become in certain conditions. On some early coins all that is required for good is that they are identifiable while newer ones have a much higher standard. So an about good Mercury dime might be a fine if it were a flowing hair cent in the same condition.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buffalo nickels are definitely a grading challenge due to weak strike characteristics mentioned by MrMerc, especially during the early years. I found David W. Lange's " The complete guide to Buffalo nickels " very helpful. As always, looking at lots of coins certainly helps. Maybe have the dealer you visit show you examples of weak vs. bold strike. As far as grading standards changing, I feel they tend to move slightly with the ebb and flow of the overall coin market. compare several slabbed coins and you will see what I mean
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