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Half Dollar Dilema

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 Posted 10/30/2015  10:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey All,

I have two half dollars that are getting the best of me. I'll take about 3 coins.

Coin 1: 1971 coin weighing 11.2g. This is what a genuine half looks like, sounds like, and weighs (for the most part)

Coin 2: 1971 coin weighing 9g sounds token-like and hollow. I think it is a Magician's coin as I see the edge protruding on the back side (as seen in the picture). I have tried everything I can think of to open it. I put it in the freezer over night and put it in a glass jar and shook it until the jar shattered. Any ideas on how to open it and if I identified it correctly?

Coin 3: 1979 coin weighing 10.2 g. It has a lower pitch than a normal coin. Since it weighs one gram less and sounds different, I'm thinking something must be up. The reason I have this one is I was roll searching and dropping them into a bucket and heard this one sound significantly different than the others.
I also tried the freezer and jar trick with this guy and had no luck.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks all!



Supposed to weigh 11.34

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 Posted 10/31/2015  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Magicians coin is interesting, is it magnetic by any chance, and might that offer a solution? Could it be possible to flip it open with a penknife? (Doesn't look like much room for purchase there so be careful if you try)

I look forwards to seeing how this thread turns out...
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 Posted 10/31/2015  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted the article before, but I'll try and dig it up again.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20..._of_54m.html

There have been more half dollars destroyed than the US has ever minted. With just that and some off weight weird sounding coins, I personally would mark them as fakes and keep them far from your collection. I also have a really convincing 71 half dollar in my own black cabinet collection. A quick glance at it and you would never know, but it's weight is off an it just feels "wrong". If you check it under high magnification you can see a seam running around the inside of the rim. I thought it may be a Magicians coin, but I've come to the conclusion these fakes are being mass produced in pieces and being assembled with some sort or high strength glue. If I ever come across another one I may try and put it in some solvent to try and break the two pieces apart.

I haven't seen a counterfeit 79 yet, but that doesn't mean they aren't floating around.
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 Posted 10/31/2015  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting article Dave... $900 in every car, what a bluff!
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Interesting indeed. Probably a big reason why the US Mint is suspending and revamping its mutilated coin exchange program:

http://mintnewsblog.com/2015/10/u-s...oming-weeks/
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David, none of them are magnetic. I might have to try a pen knife or cut one of these puppies open.

Davec, that is crazy! They've destroyed more fakes than the Fed has ever minted. WOW! After reading that, I'm convinced the lightest one that sounds like a plastic token (yet still is metal) might be one of the fakes. I could try the pen knife. Solvent would work probably, but I don't have any. Are you trying that any time soon? I am very interested in the outcome.
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Use a small wooden box. Not a jar. Shake the crap out if it BUT if you dent it you're screwed. If you can get it to seperate just a little then a razor blade or pen knife might work. I found an 82 kennedy magic coin when I was going through a few hundred inherited kennedys a few months ago
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Thanks for the link Celtic, I wasn't aware.
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I like to keep my fake stuff for further study. If I ever come across another one I will for sure try and separate the two pieces.
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