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Lincoln Cent Die Face Image?

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Does anyone have a photo of the die face for a Lincoln Cent - preferable memorial, but any would do? Or know of a link to such a photo?
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maddieclashes website may have some that you are looking for.
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Thanks - I do not find any images of actual dies on that site at all...

Maybe I missed them?
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search this in google "images of dies used to make coins" click on the images search option and you will find hundreds of images like that.
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cwb, thanks - that is what I am looking for - now if I could just see more detail! Enlarging that photo just blurs the image and makes it too grainy to see the detail!

Googling gives me lots of dies...true, and one of them was almost clear enough to see detail! Thanks for your help.

I am trying to ascertain whether or not dies to make Lincoln cents have a shoulder around the circumference to accommodate the rim. One die in the photo at the following link sorta looks like there is a shoulder. Does anyone know the answer or able to see better than I?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tfVmLsdM8...0/Money5.jpg
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On a double struck coin, there doesn't seem to be a rim in that area of the die.
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The metal does get pushed and thinned during the second strike, no visible edge see to be there, just the outside of the die faces pressing down.
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Even off centers don't show that rim edge of the die:
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Broadstruck ones don't show the edge as raised:
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The coins with denticals appear to have some design at the edge of the die.
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Even the mint assisted die caps don't show an rim:
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I think it would be logical to think, that if there was a raised area on the die to shape the rim, that would be polished away during the polishing processes?
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I think it would be logical to think, that if there was a raised area on the die to shape the rim,


The rim of a Lincoln Cent is raised. So wouldn't the shoulder, if there is one around the die's circumference, be dropped off (lower than the plane of the die face) to accommodate and give final shape to the rim? This happens within the collar, of course, to give the shape to the outside circumference of the coin.

Am I understanding this correctly?
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The edge of the die is beveled. That, fitting together with the collar is what shapes the rim that was created during the upsetting process.
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The edge of the die is beveled. That, fitting together with the collar is what shapes the rim that was created during the upsetting process.


Thank you! Beveled is the word I could not call to mind. Seems like the older and more senile I get, the more that happens!

I know that I ask too many questions and that I am really dense!

I appreciate the patience and tolerance of everyone on this forum!
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Here is a proof reverse cent die. It appears that there might be an edge or bevel downward on the edge of the die:
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The dies are created with the lugs in place from the hub;
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Then the edges of the die are removed to remove the lugs and taper the die:
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But still hard to see if there is anything but the straight edge of the dies?
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Perfect, coop! That first image is the one I have been searching for. It shows quite clearly the feature I have been wondering about. Thanks!
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