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I am working on a project. Please help me find a Reverse of a 1974 Small Date Cent with strong details and 2 lines visible at the top of the base of the pedestal. If you have one would you please post a close up image of the statue and pedestal on the reverse? I would like to find this on a 1974-D, but either of the other mints will do. Please post a photo of the date also. This project is related to this thread: https://goccf.com/t/244515#244515This type of Reverse is known to exist on the Large Dates, but there is uncertainty about whether it exists on small dates. Here are Coop's photos of the 2:  |
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I'll check mine & be on the lookout. I saw the other thread and am interested in this too. I love design varieties. There is a guy named John at Lincoln Cent Resource Forum that I think would be very interested in this topic. He's done a ton of research on design varieties. His username is onecent1909 if you would like to contact him. He put together a DVD on design varieties that is a GREAT resource. Good luck & I'll be looking! |
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Nice tip Jay! OK Pete, still going through a bunch of LMC coppers I got at the bank a year back. Lots of 1974s in great shape. This is to get things started.   |
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This is to get things started. Thanks - that is the best detail I have seen so far! I cannot make out 2 lines, though. Perhaps someone else could comment. |
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I had half a roll on hand of the Philly and they were 50% large 50% small dates. They reverses were like the one I posted above. I checked my Denver ones (2) and there was one small date with an even weaker reverse and one large date with the weak reverse (like the small date ones have). The S mint I only have one and it was a large date with the large date reverse. So far the Denvers were different for me. (just a few coins searched though)
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one large date with the weak reverse (like the small date ones have). Thanks for the report. At least mine isn't the only one! I am inclined to think that what we are looking for on the small date is 2 clear lines. |
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I found a couple like coop did in a small sampling. A Philly LD with a weak reverse, a Denver LD with a weak reverse, and another Philly SD with a weak (but better defined) reverse.
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Thanks Rackster. It will be interesting to see if a
SD/2 line reverse shows up! None in any 74 I have.
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11/05/2015 9:02 pm
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It will be interesting to see what this thread will generate. It had me looking tonight through a few rolls of coppers. Who ever dumped this copper hoarded from the late 60s through 1977. I have tons of lightly circulated 74/75/76/77 LMCs. Most of the 74's have been SD, so in my small sampling, it seems that these dies were in place longer than the LDs. But location is everything, so just an observation at this point rather than anything definitive. Right now averaging between 8-10 74 coins per roll so I've looked at around 60 or so coins.
Hopefully one of our fellow enthusiasts posts the target coin to indicate to the community here that such a pairing/EDS specimen exists and worth the hunt! Off to bed.
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Its a 1974-P   |
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Looks like a fresher die state. So they may have started off with those bars, but looks like the disappear quickly.
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With the example SjlundCoin posted (thanks!) I am concluding that the 2bars/no bars reverses are 2 different die states and not 2 different dies. Does anyone see it differently?
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As an added note/comment the double bar almost appears engraved by hand. Just appears stronger than other features in various samples/die states.
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As an added note/comment the double bar almost appears engraved by hand. Just appears stronger than other features in various samples/die states. Very interesting. I know absolutely nothing about the history of the techniques of die making - especially the timeline for that history. |
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the double bar almost appears engraved by hand. I was just thinking about this comment made by Rackster. If this is a serious possibility, could it be that this was only done on one die? That might explain why these do not appear to be common. Did they ever do this kind of work on a single die? |
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Posted 11/05/2015 5:14 pm
