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1952 Silver Dollar REV 001, OBV 002 Die Crack

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 Posted 11/09/2015  2:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I recently bought the 2012 Edition of Charlton for the
Silver Dollar Varieties Section. I was going through my
dollars and came across the 1952 with Obverse Die Crack.
The die crack I have is not the same as the one in
Charlton. It is in the same vicinity but not a
progressive version of the same. It is lower on the
legend in my case. See attached pics. Does it still get
the same Obverse 002 designation if it is a different die
crack. Comments welcome.

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack

1952-Silver-Dollar-REV-001,-OBV-002-Die-Crack
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If it is the same die, then yes 002. Just an earlier die state.
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@SilverDon - I agree with you that it looks like a different die than Obv.-002. As you point out, the die cracks are in different places. I'd be curious if anyone knows how many different dies were used to strike the ~406,148 silver dollars in 1952? There should be different die markers (often die cracks) for each die.
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According to Charlton,
There were 82 Obverse and 58 Reverse dies used in 1952
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@JimmyD - Wow! Thanks for the numbers. 82 Obverse dies for 406,148 coins in 1952 = 1 Obverse die for every 4953 coins on average. Does this make sense? I would have thought that dies could last for more coins than that.
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Just looking at Charlton`s Numbering system;

``Group Three The Variety Number: Progressive varieties
such as Die Cracks, Clashes, etc., will receive only one
number and will be treated as a class. Constant varieties
will be numbered individually. So a Die Crack gets 002,
Die Clash 004. It is listed 002 Die Crack (P)
Progressive, the Double HP is 003 (C) Constant.``

Agree aswag that does seem like a short
lifespan for a die, but looking at my coin it seems, as
well, that they waited too long to make the switch.
There is a second crack on the denticles near TIA.

Thanks for the numbers on the dies JimmyD.

The die crack I have pictured is not the same position as
the one pictured in Charlton`s example so it is not a
earlier die state silverstackerkid but a
different die crack involving a different die - as you
had suggested, one of the 82 mentioned, in my opinion.
It is 1952 Dollar Rev.-001, Obv.-002 Die Crack.
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I can't say I like Charlton's numbering system. What does one do if there are die cracks and clashes on the same coin? Someday there will be die studies for each year and we'll talk about specific working die (each with its own number) just like the 1859 Large cent collectors are doing.
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