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1883-O Morgan Nci

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 Posted 10/18/2005  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Becky

I actually do not collect Morgans, I just had a hard time walking by these ones,,

and these will more than likely come for sale or trade in the near future !!

I will see if I can get some decent pics of the die crack, it is really a pretty good one !!

Rick
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 Posted 10/18/2005  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty coin. My first thought was MS65. After reading everyone's comments and seen the "slab," I'm sticking to it. It's hard to see the state of the obverse fields because of the shine on the right and the shade on the left. Miss L's cheek looks clean of any serious marks, and that's usually where hives of them tend to congregate, so I figure the quality of the fields is probably deducible from that along with the pic. The reverse is sweet.
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 Posted 10/19/2005  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS64. There are couple of areas on the obverse where it looks like the luster might be slightly broken which would keep it from MS65 in my opinion. Very nice strike for a New Orleans.
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 Posted 11/03/2005  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connecticoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the photo, that Morgan looks like a 63, possibly 64.

NCI was a grading service launched by Heritage in the 1980s. They consistently overgraded relative to PCGS and NGC, hence the market lost confidence in them, and thus NCI went out of business in the late 80s or early 90s (don't recall exactly when).
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Both the 83-O and the 84-O are listed in the coins forsale forum ,,

Im accepting offers !!

Rick
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 Posted 11/04/2005  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stk54dist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm one of the new guys to this forum. What does GSA mean in a coin's description?
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quote:
Originally posted by stk54dist

I'm one of the new guys to this forum. What does GSA mean in a coin's description?



General Services Administration, the US government's bean counters. Without my looking it up for exact details, suffice it to state that the huge surplus of Morgan silver dollars stored away in the Mint's bowels were a burden on the taxpayer, so GSA decided to get rid of them. They released them for sale three times. The first time, they almost gave them away at fire sale prices. GSA couldn't sell them fast enough. Somebody got smart (most unusual in government) and decided maybe the govt could be making a little money, so they encapsulated them in special labelled GSA plastic holders and sold them for more (but not near their true collector values) in two subsequent sales. There's now millions of GSA Morgans kicking around. Some are common (1884-CC, 1885-CC) while others are not so common or rare.

Problem: the third party grading companies like to crack them out of the GSA slabs and put them in their own plastic. NGC is the only exception and wraps a seal with the coin's grade around the original GSA slab. The rest of the TPGs simply label them "GSA" or "GSA Hoard" in their own proprietary holders.

While the GSA label neither adds nor detracts value from most Morgans (there's some disagreement and some exceptions), it does add a provenance to the coin. Also, in my estimation (FWIW), as more Morgans are cracked out of their original slabs to be graded by TPGs, there will someday reach a point when Morgans still in their original GSA slabs may have enhanced value.

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