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1971 D Cent. D/D Rotated RPM. Unlisted?

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I thought it looked close to 1mm-011. I am unsure though.



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Without a side by side, I think it is 011. Either way - nice find.
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Looks a bit like the CONECA 1971-D RPM-004?
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An overlay with 1971-D 1MM-011 looks like a match, can you find any markers?
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No die markers. Fresher die state.

It looks almost,like coneca 004 coop. Almost. So I am not sure?
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Here is the markers for this die from the E-disk:
Stage A: EDS (unconfirmed)
Stage B: Die gouge dot above the Y of LIBERTY - LMDS Die cracks on column # 1, # 2, #11, and #12 - LDS
Stage C: Obverse is LMDS Reverse die changed - EDS
Stage D: Die scratches North-South on Obverse - LDS Die scratches East-West on upper Reverse - MDS Die cracks on column # 1, # 2, and #12
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I will look when I get home from school
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The rpm is the extra metal on the left side of the D right? It wouldn't be the light shadow below and to the right of the D. Just wanted to know for clarification on rpms. Thanks.
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On an RPM, MS7OE, one looks for a previously punched mintmark (or a remnant there of) underneath or near the primary mintmark. All RPM's are on coins minted prior to 1990, because at that time, they were hand-punched on the dies with a hammer. Sometimes they didn't get it right the first or even second time and "polished" off previous punchings before re-punching, however, they sometimes missed some of it. That's what we look for.
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It would be impossible to polish off a mint mark. They are the same height/some taller as the other devices on the coin. They just leave the arrant punch or discard the die.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the information. I thought a machine punched the mintmark separately. I didn't know they were hand punched.
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Sometimes there are several RPMs on a die. 1958D-1MM-021
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http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds

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It would be impossible to polish off a mint mark. They are the same height/some taller as the other devices on the coin. They just leave the arrant punch or discard the die.


1922 ?


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I didn't know they were hand punched.


They stopped hand punching them by hand in 1990

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so its a D/D & D & D & D or a D/D/D/D/D?

I checked several rolls of bu 1958-D and I am sure I would not of pulled those....

I can see them all now..
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It would be impossible to polish off a mint mark. They are the same height/some taller as the other devices on the coin. They just leave the arrant punch or discard the die.

Thanks for correcting me Coop. Of course you're right. Sometimes I wonder what I was thinking. It would certainly be hard to polish off something incuse on the die (air). Were the old punches diamond tipped maybe?
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