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 Posted 01/23/2008  5:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dark Sider to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As I read through the What Foreign Coins Do You Collect Thread I noticed that there were several posters who like to collect a coin from every country or one of each KM type from every country.

I would be interested to hear what coins you have collected from each country and to see images of those coins. Even more I would find it helpful to have a thread for each country where one could find links and information about dating, grading, particularly valuable dates and errors to look for etc.

A Forum under the World Coins and Currency Discussion could have Country threads in which posters could list or post images of the coins they have from that country and ask questions about dating grading etc. Each country thread could be a useful reference in the future. Such a thread would allow people who already have attributed their coins to have a place to show their new finds that will be part of a continuing discussion.

The forum could also be expanded to treat some other types of collections as countries for instance fish or birds or particular periods such as World War I or Foreign Coins that circulated in America before the Civil War.

There are many possibilities for a One Coin For Every Country Forum that would not be dominated by What Is It? questions of common coins and questions about obscure mint marks.

Is there any interest in such a forum by those who have been here and have made this site the quality site that it is? How would such a forum be best structured? Would a World type forum have interest? I would be interested in seeing such a forum.

***Edited by Forum Dad to move to suggestions forum.***

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 Posted 01/23/2008  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many of us post our coins on the internet. I have mine on Omnicoin. You can view my collection at http://www.omnicoin.com/?collection=echizento
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 Posted 01/24/2008  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The key problem with your theory is that for most countries, there simply aren't enough people on the forum talking about their coins.

At the moment, the attitude of CCF has been that when there's enough discussion about Country X, then Country X gets it's own subforum (like Britain, Canada and Australia currently have). If you've got ideas for particular countries to have their own subforums, then you're welcome to suggest them.

If CCF took an "if you build it they will come" attitude and partitioned the darkside forum up into hundreds of tiny subforums in advance, most of them would be empty, and probably stay empty. I've seen forums like that, and it don't look pretty - miles and miles of scrolling through empty forums, looking for what you want. Not to mention the extra work the mods would have to do when people post coins in the wrong country.

At the moment, the Forum Search function works well enough to find all the threads on coinage of particular countries and collecting themes.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't have said it better myself Sap. Thank you.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dark Sider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think it makes sense to have a forum for each country. It may make sense to have a forum that is a collection of country or other type threads.

The advantage of country type forum would be that these type of posts would not get lost in a sea of "What is it" or other types of posts. In one forum you would have one thread on each country such as Uruguay or Turkey. You could have separate threads for periods of particular interest such as Meijii Japan or the Third Reich in Germany. You might also have threads on topics such as ships or fish. I can think of several threads that would already are in the World Coins Forum that would be good to have here. You might have threads on time periods such as World War I or the Napoleonic wars. Many of the threads which I have most enjoyed follow these parameters. There would only be one forum added and in the end a few hundred threads on that forum, one for each country. You wouldn't have a thread on a country until someone started a thread on that country. ie. Say they have a nice Mongolian coin they would like people to see. They could start a Mongolian thread and post "Here's my mongolian coin." Another person has five other Mongolian coins and posts them. Pretty soon you have an interesting thread. There is probably not enough interest to have a Mongolian forum. However there may be several people who have a Mongolian coin or too. If someone wants to get more technical within that thread that's all right too.

If someone started a thread in an area that was already covered it would be a relatively simple job to consolidate threads.

The main discipline would be that posts in each thread would have to be related to that country or topic. If one was interested in advice on grading a Japanese coin they could ask a question on the Japanese thread. The threads could get long but one can always go to the end of the thread.

I know that some members already have galleries and pictures posted on the internet. A type collecting forum would be an enhanced way of letting others enjoy your coins.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It wouldn't work.

#1 There isn't enough interest to warrant it.

#2 Once a topic is off the first page it's the kiss of death, people don't look there, they just make a new thread.

#3 If there's no activity on a topic for three months it get archived and cannot be posted to.

#4 If someone started a thread in an area that was already covered it would be a relatively simple job to consolidate threads. Not hardly. It would have to be manually rebuilt in the database and I already spend 60 hours a week working on the site. I'm scrapping looking for ways to automate things, not make more work.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dark Sider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't doubt that you are right. It would be difficult to make such a forum work.

World coin type collectors are a very small market compared to US or domestic coins. That is why there are bargain bins of loose coins. World coin type collection demands an incredible array of knowledge on many fronts. Most dealers do not deal with world coins in more than the most cursory way. Limited interest with a long learning curve make World type collecting unprofitable for most dealers.

You are right. Many won't look up a thread once it is off the first page.

Since there are at least 200 countries a world type collecting forum could easily have a couple of hundred threads it is inevitable that some would not be active all the time. That would be a problem.

I thank you for your hard work and effort to make this site. I don't doubt that I underestimated the work that a forum such as this would entail.

Many of those who collect World coins collect types. There are those who collect one coin from every country, Krause types for every country, animals, a period of time etc. but they approach collecting from a different angle then those who collect every date, mintmark and error of a particular series. There is no site on the internet of which I am aware that has managed to create a forum that does what I proposed.

I suspect it is probably too early for me to even bring up such an idea. I am new and unknown in this community. I could not fully participate. I do not even have a proper Macro camera to take pictures of my own collection in order to fully contribute to such threads.

I floated this as a trial ballon because the threads I described are the types of threads that I most enjoy reading and I would find it useful to have a place I could find information that would help in collecting world types. I would not be surprised if there are others out there who would also find such a forum useful and entertaining. Even so much of what I envision is already being done on this site as well as any site I have seen.

It looks to me as if the trial balloon has spectacularly crashed and burned. Please do not take this as a criticism of this site. I appreciate your efforts.
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 Posted 01/24/2008  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We are always looking for new ways to keep making this the Best Coin Forum on the web. Any and all ideas are always looked at but most of the time they have been discussed or tried in the past.

I'd also say that about 50% or more of the posts in the World Coin category are..."what's this coin?"

and with that said it's more of a race to see who can get the coin right before Sap logs on.
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 Posted 01/25/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dark Sider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am amazed by some of the wonderful answers which come in the forums. There are links to some amazing websites. An answer on dating Thai coins was using a coin I was trying to date just the other day. If this information were organized in a way that one could continue to find and access that information this site would be the best foreign coin reference on the web.

As it stands this site is like a living encyclopedia and perhaps that is for the best.

As I read I suspect that there are some incredible collections out there and it would be interesting to see some of them.
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 Posted 01/28/2008  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since 50% of the posts in the World Coin category are about "what is this coin?" Would it be possible to add a forum section in the world coin section for these posts only. At least that way it would halve the number of new posts about other world coin subjects. Make it easier to read all the new posts that aren't requests to identify a particular coin. Just a thought.
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 Posted 01/28/2008  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Since 50% of the posts in the World Coin category are about "what is this coin?"


Let me look into that. It's possible. If we do this, what's left in the World coin forum may kind of function as a OFEC forum.

I also have an additional idea regarding this that I need to run by the staff. I'll be back.
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