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1975 1 Cent Ragged Clip Split Planchet?

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As I was going through the split planchets that I had recently purchased, I came across this one.

So my question is - did this planchet have a ragged clip before it split? That's what I think.

but another possibility could be that it split into that shape off a normal planchet?

Or maybe this was never split but just struck on a very thin ragged clip planchet?

Cool coin though! What a mess it is! Lol




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Let's wait for the professionals like Jbuck...
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That is very cool, I really like small piece of full rim remaining on the obverse.

Great find and congrats.

Cheers, Bill
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I'm going to guess that the planchet split while going through the upset machine and the split will follow the lines of the impurities or flaw.
In reality there should be another coin out there that if added to yours would equal the weight of one.
Your coin looks as if it could be less then half the weight of a normal coin.

Whats the weight?

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The rolled over edge give me some concerns.
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I think it originally had the ragged clip, then it split before strike. Given that the rim is strong near one side of the clip I don't think it split into that shape.
If it was split after strike the obverse would have a full strike, and also the striations here have a "split before strike"-look to it. If I'm not mistaken, there's some Blakesley effect going on on the obverse. It might be just an illusion from the folded over part though.
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did this planchet have a ragged clip before it split?


The flaw existed in the bronze strips, even before the planchet was cut out. Ragged planchets are from flawed metal (perhaps even gas bubbles) in the rolling strips. There is a Blakesley effect from the flaw in the planchet, even with a split planchet. This means the planchet was split either during, or after, the upset mill.


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The rolled over edge give me some concerns.


That is post-mint damage, perhaps from a counting or rolling machine.


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Let's wait for the professionals like Jbuck...


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don't be upset SPP. It's just one of our American friends not familiar with our local expert.

Cool! A double error. And yes, there is a Blakesley effect.

Hound dog bill...I don't have a scale so weight is not available.

Thanks for the replies.
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