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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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OK, I normally don't post things like this, but this coin got me wondering. This is a reputable dealer, but I am curious about the images, there are fingerprints, and a deep gauge, how can this be MS65? I know they say this is toned... but? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/S-1-Canada-1...f37yquItaQBg |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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A good example of buy the coin not the holder.
This would not find a home in my collection.
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
maybe the scratches etc are just breaks in the toning? they do look like scratches to me, but photos play tricks sometimes
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5324 Posts |
It's in one of NGC early holders but looks like it was in a war, looks rotated too, ask Joe to bring it to one of the shows.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2187 Posts |
It doesn't look like its a scratch, but a streak that wasn't toned with the rest. The fingerprint doesn't affect the grade. The MS65 is probably due to the details. In hand, it might show more details than we see in the picture. As for appeal, if someone likes it they'll get it.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
1747 Posts |
I am not really interested in the coin, I am really trying to figure out grading, and looking at that coin (in the pictures) it would not be MS. Personally I would never buy a toned coin.
so fingerprints don't affect the grade? doesn't that really fly in the face of the Mint State part of MS65? how does that work?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The odd toning pattern is giving an illusion of there being a scratch which isn't actually there.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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In any event, the appeal is difficult to understand.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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The average price for a 1939 MS65 is $385.00
so seller is charging over $200.00 extra for the "toning".
It's not my thing. Much rather have a nice clean coin for less money.
Edited by JimmyD
11/30/2015 8:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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A fingerprint in my opinion, is a major flaw. I'm surprised a TPG would ignore it. |
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Canada
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I like a little natural toning on some coins, although I can be very picky about what is and isn't eye appealing. I avoid buying coins with spotty, unattractive toning or finger prints. As I understand it, eye appeal is a grading factor in the US but not in Canada. As a mostly Canadian collector, I like it this way, as it makes eye appealing coins more affordable...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I know that PCGS can give a grade point for attractive eye appeal. But I didn't know they could take out a point. I mean, unless the die was getting old and weak strike looked ugly. But toning and fingerprint-wise, it's not affecting the detail. As for NGC, I'm not too familiar with their whole take on eye appeal
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Eye appeal will have a big part to play in the real value of this coin, that is why it was eBayed.
I guess it will be hoped that the person who buys it will go on the grade alone.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
818 Posts |
this coin was mishandled and does not deserve an MS65.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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That has to be the ugliest coin I have ever seen.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Neither toning nor fingerprints affect the technical grade of the coin. It's not my cup of tea either, but it's almost certainly original. IIRC there's a 1948 dollar that looks similar that is also graded MS-65, but by ICCS.
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Posted 11/30/2015 6:13 pm
