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2011 Charlton Variety Collectors

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 Posted 12/03/2015  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i looked through my 1888's to look for the one you show but didnt find any with that die crack/marker but I did find these

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oh and thanks for pointing out my pg 324 mix up in my link I will fix that soon
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 Posted 12/03/2015  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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I'm quite surprised you found one so quickly.


Thanks for the added facts Bill but I was just looking through photos..and still will have to reread your notes to better understand what's so important here..(I'm still not sure)

... now I will have to check the other 88's also.
..and maybe some better photos also..
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 Posted 12/03/2015  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gidjit, I like your 88s, I keep looking for more.
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 Posted 12/04/2015  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

[quote]understand what's so important here..(I'm still not sure)/quote]

I've probably made this more confusing then it had to be by introducing the other reverse associated with the same Obverse as the coin on page 324.
What I was originally trying to do was just show the markers for those that are trying to match the coins from the back of the 2011 Charlton.
I don't think there's any real importance to the coin on page 324 other then it's the coin they chose for the book. There are many 1888's with all three eights re-punched and several are better then the coin featured.
The coin that fourmick has shown is a better example of re-punched eights.

The coin that's in the book will have an obverse die crack at the "C" in Canada the die crack developed while the first reverse was still in use.
This would mean if there's no die crack at the "C" then it's not the same coin as in the book.
With the coins I've found matching page 324 they all have the die crack at leaf two on the reverse as shown in Charlton but I would assume you could find an early die state with no D/C on the reverse but it would still have the obverse die crack.

gidjit the two you have shown appear to be correct for the first obverse, the last eight not shown in your close-up pictures should have doubling from the bottom of the eight.
There may also look for a small die crack at leaf #7 near the top of the leaf I can't tell from these pictures if it's there.
Have a very close look at the "C" in Canada on the obverse, it could have the die crack also as it developed while the first reverse was still in use but it would be in it's early formation and may be faint.

Cheers, Bill
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...but I would assume you could find an early die state with no D/C on the reverse but it would still have the obverse die crack.


Here is that faint d/c to the right of the C in Canada..from my 2nd greenish cent..

..but I still have to find the other 1888..

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 Posted 12/04/2015  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I'm sorry to say that I have them all (or HAD because there are a few that I can't find after repacking stuff after a flood). I also co-wrote the 2o11 variety section and many of the coins pictured are mine. Some of my friends on this board have been lucky enough to get some of my 'doubles' when I've been in a good mood. I've started many a person on the Vicky hunts in my nearly 20 years on these boards (previously under a different handle).
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I've started many a person on the Vicky hunts in my nearly 20 years on these boards (previously under a different handle).

I will agree to that being 1 of many
Cheers Don

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