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I'm not sure if anyone is still trying to collect all the varieties from the back of the 2011 65th edition of Charlton or not. I do know there're some that are just near impossible to attribute (the pictures are not that great) and I'm not sure all would be worth the trouble. I've been studying 1888's for some time and have just now been able to ID one of the tougher ones from the 2011 Charlton Cat. page 324. I just thought I'd share a little info so here's some pictures of the reverse that may help you in your search. If there's interest there are obverse markers also and I'll do the same with the obverse but it takes me a while as I'm slow with the computer. For now happy hunting  Cheers, Bill     |
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I'm not sure if anyone is still trying to collect all the varieties from the back of the 2011 65th edition of Charlton im still trying :) I have pics of the large cents I have found so far in the link below |
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Thanks Bill..I've also been trying..but that's a near impossible road in trying to "capture" them all.
Now page 324 shows the last 8 DP'd at the top or right top whereas you show it also down on the top right loop lower right side..
Should we see it both ways..?
I do have an 1888 that's tagged (my tag) as having all 8's RP'd.
...so I will use these markers to see if it is indeed the same one as here..
Keeping my fingers crossed on my 88..
If it's a yes ,..I'll get pics up here..
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gidjit I had the pleasure of looking through your collection and you've got some very impressive coins. You should be proud, nice job..
The coin you have pictured as the coin for page 324 is not the correct one.
It's definitely a coin with all eights doubled but the doubling is much better on the one you present then the one shown in the the book.
As far as numbers go I found four bead punch and four of your coin with the hock on the last eight so about the same rarity as the bead punch.
DEVLEC, there's really not that much doubling on the last eight at all so I wouldn't necessarily use that as a marker. In fact I never used the date at all.
I identified this coin by the the die crack at leaf two if you look at the picture in the book with a 5 or 10 times lope you'll see this same die crack.
Now it 's a little harder to see the obverse picture in the book as it's quite small.
Take a close look at the picture and see if you can find a possible die crack?
Cheers, Bill
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Oh..!! I can easily see the d/c at leaf 2 in the Charlton ,..but I'll bet that the one I have probably does not..
We will see,.. and I'll get back here with it..
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I'm not sure if anyone is still trying to collect all the varieties from the back of the 2011 65th edition of Charlton or not. Only if I'm fortunate to find them. I'm just trying to properly identify what I have. Don't necessarily want to acquire extras unless they would grade better than what I already have in the collection, then I could trade or sell the duplicates so others could have them. |
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I'm not sure if anyone is still trying to collect all the varieties from the back of the 2011 65th edition of Charlton or not. Page 309 is pretty darn tough to find. I have found two, one was a corroded G6 and the other (ICCS F-15) I sold to a very good friend of mine quite cheaply... the hunt continues... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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.and the other (ICCS F-15) I sold to a very good friend of mine quite cheaply... Cheery picked locally if I remember correctly.."a very lucky friend"... |
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A very good friend (Tim), and also one of the nicest guys you have yet to meet!!
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Very nice examples!! I also like the 1893 Here are four different DP9 I am also looking for the one on page 309 Enjoy     Boy them Vickies are fun to collect!! MG Edited by viper
12/02/2015 11:55 am
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Yes SPP that's the toughest one and not many have been found.
Viper nice re-punches you have and the last one looks like it's been triple punched. I have ones similar to the ones you've shown I'll have to check closer and see which one.
You should try and list the markers for each one so others can search for them also.
Back to the coin in the OP I will show the obverse of the coin and add some other information that will make this obverse die even more desirable and give added cause to the search.
I've still got to get the proper pictures of the obverse which I'm not that good at.
Cheers, Bill
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But my re-punched 3 is not listed  maybe they didn't know about it   Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
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Here are the pictures of the obverse for the coin in the OP. I've included one of the OP pictures for clarity This obverse was used with at least two different reverse dies with this coin being the second reverse used. I have found the first reverse die used with this obverse to be very difficult to find but if you do find one you'll be pleasantly surprised when you inspect the date. The first reverse has perhaps the most significantly re-punched three eight's you'll find on any 1888. I have only two of this die pair and I've searched for years and well over 1000 coins The last picture is of the Eight's from the first reverse used.  Second Reverse  Obverse picture associated with second reverse  Close-up of Die Crack  Three Eight's from first reverse. So in conclusion if you can find an 1888 with this same die crack on the obverse you will be finding either the coin shown on Page 324 of the 2011 Charlton cat. or if you have some very good luck you'll find one with the first reverse I have found two with the pronounced offset on one there's no die crack (earlier die state) and the other has the die crack at the "C" in Canada just not as well developed. I'd be very interested and very thankfull for pictures of any coin found with this obverse and if it's possible for those that take the time to check to list hear how many coins were searched and how many you found. Cheers, Bill |
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Here is one with the heavy 8 repunched... I do have more ....and I will look at my old files photos..    ..and I really don't know where this 1888 fits..   . . Edited by DEVLEC
12/03/2015 9:48 pm
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Yes Devlec your first coin is one from the first reverse die used with this obverse and I've found it very difficult to find.... your coin is in an earlier die state.
I have one in this die state also, the obverse die will later develop a die crack just after the "C" in Canada.
It's hard to tell from the picture if a crack has started yet. Take a close look at the coin in this area
It's really still quite evident that all the eight's were re-punched even in this well worn condition.
I'm quite surprised you found one so quickly. How many did you look through?
Congrats! To me it's a keeper in all conditions.
Your second coin is from a very large group of 1888's that had a full repaired serif on the "N" in Regina the "D" in Canada but the "D" in Dei left with just a short stud. The vast majority of 1888's are similar to your second coin including the two with the tripled eights that I've shown.
Cheers, Bill
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this 1 has a minor 888 and no die crack by C   Cheers Don
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