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 Posted 12/10/2015  2:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add w1ksz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a 1908 Double Eagle, about XF condition, that has about 100 years of grease and grime on it.

What would folks recommend I use to clean it ? Maybe something like Formula 409 and an old toothbrush ?

Thanks for any advice,

rs
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 Posted 12/10/2015  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you are only kidding about the 409 and the toothbrush. this would immediately destroy any numismatic value to the coin.

you should never use any brush on a coin, or even use a towel to wipe it off.

The only safe way to clean coins is using 100% pure acetone, put it in a glass jar (plastic will be eaten by the acetone) and let it sit for a few days. Make sure you do this in an area with good ventilation, because acetone is not good to breath.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Let me add that the jar should have lid.
Acetone is very volatile.
For more information go to the Search Coin Community ( top left ) type in acetone.
Can you post a before picture both sides.
Then an after treatment picture.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bud250r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nooooo....... No brush, especially on gold. I would let it soak in acetone for a while. Do you have a picture, maybe there will be other suggestions
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 Posted 12/10/2015  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1ksz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Acetone is not very nice stuff, in sufficient quantity it is a carcinogen.
There must be something not quite as toxic for removing grease/grime ?

What is it about Formula 409 that folks don't like. This is Gold after
all and not much can attack it.

Just curious,

Thanks for the replies,

rs
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 Posted 12/10/2015  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Acetone only.


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What is it about Formula 409 that folks don't like


It is a free country and it is your coin. If you want to go against the unanimous consensus here then by all means get out the toothbrush and start scrubbing.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think he was kidding about the 409. Yes, start with an acetone bath and perhaps a Q-tip to gently nudge the surfaces while it's immersed.

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if you only want a shiny gold coin to have in your pocket, or to display on your shelf, then by all means use any cleaner you want, feel free to use an SOS pad, and steel wool to get that really stuck on stuff.

However if you care about the coin, and perhaps want to maintain ANY VALUE above gold spot pricing then only use the acetone.

Note that any surface under the grime/grease will have toned significantly differently than that which was not covered and you may be left with brighter spots on the coin.

-nuff said!
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Acetone is not very nice stuff, in sufficient quantity it is a carcinogen.

That is absolutely false, acetone is most certainly NOT a carcinogen. As far as solvents go, acetone has a very low toxicity profile and it is even produced in the human body as a byproduct of metabolism.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1ksz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a pack of friendly and knowledgeable folks.
Ask as simple question that goes against YOUR idea of Gospel
and it's off to the pits with him.

If I can't ask for a simple explanation to a question, then
I'll refrain from asking any further questions.

Far be it that I should question "Gospel" !!

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Take before and after pics when you try the 409/toothbrush .
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 Posted 12/10/2015  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gold is SOFT!
Use soft rubber gloves.
Use plain old pure, mild soap 'n water for gold coins, and rub gently.
Pat dry with a clean towel, blow dry if you wish.
All gold coins respond very well with this treatment.
Those with cartwheel luster really gleam!

Acetone is OK for gold coins, but you can't use soft gloves; they could dissolve. Soap 'n water is more accessible anyway.

Slab them after cleaning, or at least store them in a capsule.

Been doing this for gold coins for more than 40 years; never a problem!
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Well, "This gospel" knows quite a bit about this subject. Don't listen, clean it any way you want. Don't cry to us.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear W1ksz,

Your simple question would take an hour to answer in full. Since I am a two finger typist, this will have to do:

Don't be put off by all the answers you have received. What they are trying to "hammer home" is it is best that you do not touch your coin at all. Old gold coins often develop a "skin" that dulls the surface and is much more attractive to many numismatists than a bright shiny coin.

There are many chemicals besides acetone that professionals use to conserve (properly clean) coins. The important thing is not to rub the surface with anything and make sure the coin is neutralized after treatment. Again, don't touch your coin unless you know what you are doing. Most circulated coins look terrible when cleaned.

Regards



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 Posted 12/10/2015  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a 1908-S Saint-Gaudens by any chance?
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 Posted 12/10/2015  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no no no no no no no no no no NOOOO!!

Dont clean it!
Read above posts!
SAVE YOURSELF!
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