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I was looking through some coins and was trying to identify this one. My guess is it could be a fake of: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-235516 due to the wrong location of the date? I could not find any examples that had the exact layout of the coin I have. What do you guys think?   |
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I'm not an expert on these but the coin looks legitimate to me.
There were 2 varieties for the date location on 1699 halfpennies; one with the date in the exergue at the bottom, and one with the date after the letters BRITANNIA as we see here, which is somewhat more uncommon.
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Doesn't look fake, looks typical for the date and series. As Kefiroth said, the date was placed in two places in 1699, either after BRITANNIA in the legend or in the exergue.
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Those pictures of the farthing have the date lower next to the shield, anyone know of a variation like mine where it ends above it? That's the main reason why I'm suspicious, because I haven't seen a picture with the exact placement of mine...
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I'm not rooting for it to be fake, I just have concerns. I've never not been able to find an exact pic of a coin before.
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Edited by EFLargeCents
12/30/2015 3:01 pm
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Halfpenny. Not fake. 1699 Date in Legend. Scarcer than date in exergue type. I don't see any spelling mistakes or missing stops, so the normal variety for the date.
Edited by EFLargeCents
12/30/2015 3:43 pm
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G2-4?  |
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Thank you EFLargeCents for mentioning my website Farthings & halfpenny errors.com, it should steer most collectors to a positive conclusion on the subject of English & British copper farthings and halfpennies.
Its definitely a William III halfpenny with reverse 2 & obverse 1, there were 3 reverses & 2 obverse. 1699 had three styles, the date in the legends with the above combination of reverse & obverse dies, also reverse 3 with obverse 2 which is called date in legend and lastly whats know as the mule ( my website will beg to differ with good evidence to offer ) this is a mix up of the above dies which is obverse 1 with reverse 3. Hope this helps...
Once again thank you EFLargeCents.
Happy new year to all & good luck & best wishes in all your collecting from an eccentric Englishman, Joe lee
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My mistake on above text its reverse 3 with obverse 2 which is called date in Exergue and not legend
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I have your website bookmarked! I often reference it when I find new halfpennies. Thanks for putting all the information in one place, and with pictures!
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I now have it bookmarked, thanks for the new resource!
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Do you guys think it even registers on the condition scale? I don't usually have this worn of a coin. Does it even make it halfway to G8?
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Hello LordWrathbone.
In Britain we still grade with words rather by numbers,this is mainly due to the problems in the production process which all but disappeared by the late 18th century and has stuck since.
In the British way you coin would grade reverse nearly fair but identifiable with clear legends / obverse grades poor.
I would check if theirs bars across the A`s, the photo looks as if they may be absent. If there missing I would definitely hold on to it...
Hope this helps, best wishes Joe.
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