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Need Help With A Feuchtwanger's Cent

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 Posted 12/30/2015  5:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dcnw1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I inherited several of these coins/tokens. This is the only one of the batch that had Low 120 written on the holder. I see several with this description selling on ebay for more than the others. What does Low 120 mean?

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 Posted 12/31/2015  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcnw1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the link but I still don't see an explanation of what differentiates a Low 120 from the other Feuchtwanger cents?
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I am stumped. I have tried looking for what Low-120 means but I have not found any site that says what its meaning is. Looking at images of these coins in slabs, no grading company puts Low-120 on the slabs, yet people still say that is what they are in their description.

This site lists the different designs of these types of coins/tokens, which seem to be shown by HT and a number. Yours would be HT-268, and each of them are listed as Low-120 with a variety, and no other design has that number of Low (if you do not know already, see this site. It says there are fourteen different varieties for obverse and reverse combinations. I believe yours is a 3B, but I could be wrong).

Now, I have searched High-120, Normal-120, Different types of 120s, and so on, but it appears Low-120 is the only one that exists.

Best I can figure is that all HT-268s are also Low-120s, and that it has no significant meaning (I would like to hear the opininon of someone who actually know about this type of coin though; I could be completely wrong).
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Lymon H. Lowe was a New York coin dealer of long ago who organized Hard Times Tokens into a system. Lowe-120 I think is an old designator for your token type. Since then HT numbers have reassigned Feuchtwanger cents at HT 268. Die studies further specify various obverses by number and reverses by letter.
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 Posted 01/13/2016  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcnw1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. That explains it.
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Low's book cataloging the hard times tokens was publish around 1890 or 1899. I believe it covered 183 different tokens and they were numbered Low-1 through Low-183. I some cases the low number indicates a single variety in other cases such as the Low-120 it indicates a type that is made up of several varieties. (There are 14 die varieties of the Low-120.) Hard times tokens were typically collected by Low numbers until Russell Rulau recatalogs them in the 1970's or 80's and increased the number of tokens to a little under 400 varieties/types.

The coin you posted appears to be die pair 3B, an R5 variety (31 -75 known)
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Dcnw1983 .... On another note, I humbly suggest that you grab a pair of needle-nosed pliers, asap, and crimp those potentially damaging staples. An better alternative would be to visit your local coin shop and invest in some new flips so that you can also make notations about your new acquisitions.

Cool stuff, you've gotten!
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