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Two Rentenmark Notes With Different Watermarks

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Hi guys, I have two old 1926 German Rentenmark notes but I find they have two different watermarks with different plants. I have no experience on these notes. Is that true for different watermarks on banknotes of same design like that? Thank you your reply.


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You have GERMANY - Deutsche Rentenbank 5 Rentenmark P-169 from 1926

http://banknote.ws/COLLECTION/count.../GER0169.htm

There are 2 different types but they are 7 digit serial # and a 8 digit serial #. There is no mention of a different watermarks. It could be a new variety that has not been reported before. If you could post a picture of the watermarks it would help. As far as I can see now both notes are P-169(2) the 8 digit serial #

Note that when the notes are listed as P-xxx(1) or (2) it means that these are considered to be different varieties but not listed in the Karuse Catalog as such. If you truly have a different watermark then it would make is a P-169(3).
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Sharebear, thank you your reply. The following pictures are prepared for you.


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 Posted 01/03/2016  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ShareBear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both notes are the same. The watermark on both notes is wheat stalk. One is just shifted more. Each note came from a different batch of watermarked paper and watermarking paper is not like printing. They are not created using plates. Wet paper is rolled and pressed to lighten sections.
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The Pick catalog does not list all the varieties for many German notes from this period. The Rosenberg catalog of German paper money which does list all the varieties does not list any watermark varieties for this note.
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It seems that in the printing of these notes,
no consideration was given to the vertical registration of the printing
relative to the previously prepared watermarked paper.

I would think that the vertical registration would be infinitely variable,
governed only by the vertical repetition length of the watermark.
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Thank you so much all of you for your input. Yes, I agree the two water marks are of same design. They are probably in different size of the wheat stalk. They are just for the anti-counterfeiting purpose so they are not varieties.
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@lettow Does the Rosenberg catalog of German paper money list more than 2 different varieties for this note? I am curious to see what is considered a variety other than the 7 or 8 digit SN.
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Rosenberg only lists the number of digits in the serial numbers as varieties for this note.
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