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Black Beauty? I Would Like Your Opinion

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 Posted 01/05/2016  6:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was about to post this to an existing thread about a lamination error nickel I have. There were several comments about that coin being a Black Beauty Jefferson nickel. I decided to start fresh.

So, what does everyone think? Is this a Black Beauty Jefferson nickel?

I will wait for a while and then I will share my thoughts and reveal some details the may help to determine if it is or isn't what it appears.


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 Posted 01/05/2016  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't tell from those pics but I'm leaning towards no
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Normally, a dark coin on a light background is perhaps, preferable. But to establish context, maybe consider a side-by-side with a normal nickel and the 'black beauty' specimen on a medium background. Establish contrast.
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 Posted 01/05/2016  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most Black Beauties that I know of have a dark dull look to them. yours is glossy so I am going to lean towards NO not a B/B.
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 Posted 01/05/2016  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree.
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should be a solid gunship grey.. any varied color, red or silver showing through is environmental or PMD
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 Posted 01/06/2016  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ocala - can you get a closer shot of your slabbed coin?
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 Posted 01/06/2016  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

yes pleasez
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I reshot it till matched good color on my monitor but ?


the white lines and stuff is on the slab plastic


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Sweet, nice photos as well.
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If the coin retains its original mint luster, then it's probably a genuine "black beauty" nickel. They appeared in some abundance in 1958 and 1959.
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 Posted 01/06/2016  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
they should also still have some mint luster as anyone one can cook a nickel in a oven

I learned this from biokemist6 he say this very useful tidbit


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Unless a "black beauty" is in lustrous uncirculated condition, odds are high that it is just environmental damage or toning. The effect can be imitated but only to the detriment of luster so be wary of circulated pretenders. Striking a coin is what imparts luster and the planchets are annealed/darkened prior to striking.


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 Posted 01/07/2016  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the feed back. It has helped confirm to me what I already suspected. I was under the impression that black beauty nickels were only from 1959, but I have heard unconfirmed reports that they can be found from other years as well. This coin has most of the original mint luster and is what I consider a high grade coin. The one telling sigh that has me thinking I do not have a black beauty is that the dark color has been partially worn off the rim. I am determined to own a black beauty so I will continue to search for a certified coin.
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This was a good thread! Thanks to all of the contributors. I have been setting aside what I thought were black beauties to build a set. But I'm sure that a number are probably not given Mike's information. I have been setting aside the nickels with luster so at least I have that going for me. But I need to be sure that the rims don't tell a different story.

Thanks folks!
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As usual - a question: are BBs intentional or accidental?

There must be hundreds of variations in coins....how are thry kept track of? (Whew)
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