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Toned Modern Silver Coin (Liberia $10)

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 Posted 01/11/2016  10:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MoonRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've picked this coin, and I am a bit on the fence with the toning. Have a couple of questions to people who are knowledgeable in the subject:

(A) Does this look like a naturally caused toning? (It does not to me, but I am far from being an expert)
(B) Do you feel like this particular toning pattern/color/amount significantly affects the value of the coin? (I think it does because of A)

Sorry for picture quality - there is a fair bit of reflection, was taking pictures under rather bright artificial light (and the coin is quite reflective as well).

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 Posted 01/11/2016  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning looks acceptable to me. It would be interesting to know how/where it was stored.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
chequer That, unfortunately, is not known. What's your take on the value, would you consider it significantly less than a perfectly lustrous coin? And, of course, thanks for the opinion.

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 Posted 01/11/2016  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't really expect that sort of toning to be intentional. Looks like pretty common ring toning. However I would say it hurts the value as far as me being a buyer. It's just not that attractive to me unless it's a coin that normally is just a bullion coin. In that case I would chose it over a blast white one but not pay more for it.

When it's not w coin that I would see in a album I tend to associate it with like a small plastic case with a cardboard insert that holds the coin. I have a few American Eagles in similar cases and they started toning red around the edges of the cardboard. It took them about ten years for me to notice them. However it was a lovely effect so I kept them in them and watch it. I try to find a picture of the cases I'm talking about.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the case but not mine. As you can see this case is prone to toning kinda similarly to your coin. In my safe though they tone light rainbow reds. At that point it becomes wheter is it now not natural toning because I know it tones the coin and I still use it.

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Agreed the toning is natural. If it would be intentional, or artificial, it would be all over the coin since the reaction would be more centered to the middle of the coin to give colour to the whole coin. Artificial toning can differ, but this is definitely a storage issue in the past.
As for value, I don't see much more than bullion (=silver) value for this one, maybe a slight premium for the built-in rock in it. The toning would be a bummer in this case, since the demand for these kinds of coins are pretty low and since they're modern, most people would enjoy perfect, untoned coin since they are still avalible for low prices. $10 Liberian is almost worthless compared to the silver content.

As always, I could be wrong, so don't quote me
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 Posted 01/23/2016  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone for the comments. Appreciate some learning experience along the way as well.
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 Posted 01/23/2016  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
please explain to me why natural toning takes away value of a coin,how do you figure that?
so all toned coins are buillion value for you then?
if it would be arteficial toning then I would tend to agree but a nice toned undamaged coin losing value, thats the first time I hear that.
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 Posted 01/25/2016  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel like it does because it's already a bullion value modern coin with little premium. A lot of beginning collectors prefer for it be blast white If it was something with more of a slight premium like a American eagle it might help its value with some people. It's just my opinion though. I preferred toned especially as the coin age gets to a older point.
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 Posted 01/27/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a quick note on the pricing. It is being sold far above bullion value. The last few I saw on ebay were going for $800+. This is the first ever coin with an attached meteorite, pretty rare these days.
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 Posted 01/28/2016  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry not to into modern NCLT to know value of it. I think it adds value to some people and takes away value from other people. It really just depends.
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