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 Posted 01/13/2016  10:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just got the notification that this should be arriving sometime this week, and had to share:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-97-U...151923350333

I normally scroll right past lots with a starting bid of $100, especially from sellers with so little feedback. But, something possessed me to click on this one. Unlike 99% of the ebay lots, this is definitely not all LRBs with a cull as or sestertius to generate interest. So, for a little under $1.30 each (I calculate about $2.50-3 after removing the culls), I figured I would be reasonably safe with this one.

I'll post pictures here as I wade through, making identifications or asking for help as I get stumped.

From the seller pics, I see:

- At least 2 or 3 Ptolemy bronzes
- At least one post-Constantine silver (or silvered bronze)
- Plenty of LRBs that should be identifiable
- Several thick bronzes sporting animals on the front
- A few small silvers, maybe medieval

Wish me luck and stay posted!
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 Posted 01/13/2016  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you can not be doing wrong buying such a lot.If you have 10 good coins , you have your money back and the fun you have is free , so congrats . albert
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 Posted 01/13/2016  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I´m agree, good purchase!
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 Posted 01/13/2016  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainyesterday555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a promising lot, and should be fun. Look forward to seeing what you find.
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 Posted 01/13/2016  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you will have some interesting and decent coins in the lot.
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 Posted 01/14/2016  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a fair bet, I look forwards to seeing your write up...
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 Posted 01/15/2016  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Package just arrived today!

Unfortunately I will not be able to sit down and drill through the lot for a couple days, but here is a sneak peek of what is in the lot:

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Looking promising so far!
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 Posted 01/15/2016  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see several interesting looking ones there.
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 Posted 01/15/2016  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "falling horseman" is very rare...
it has an inscription "LXXII" ("72")
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I noticed that also.
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 Posted 01/19/2016  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First round is in:

1/97:

Alexander the Great AE 17
4.99g

Obv:
Bust of Alexander as Hercules
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Rev:
Club and quiver of arrows, legend "ALEXANDROU"
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The bust sadly is ruined by environmental damage, but the reverse is well preserved; albeit off center. A very worthy coin for an uncleaned lot.

Coin 2/97:

Not 100% sure, but I believe this one to be from Syracuse.
AE 18mm
8.90g

Obv:
Laureate head of Heracles(?) right
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Rev:
Eagle perched atop thunderbolt; wings spread
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Opinions welcome on this one. I initially thought this to be from Ptolemaic Egypt, but another member had posted a coin with a very similar eagle, which is of a different style from what was used in Egypt.

Coin 3/97:

Need some help with this one. Initially thought it to be an AE4 from very late Rome, but it's neither CONCORDIA AVG, nor SALVS REIPVLICE. I have seen this bust before, but cannot place it.

AE 8mm
0.65g

Obv:
Diademed bust of ?
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Rev:
Cross, legend "-VO(T/X)"
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 Posted 01/20/2016  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finn, 2/97 does not appear to be a laureate obverse but rather an elephant or lion skin (I think more likely elephant). I think your first inclination - Ptolemaic - is correct. It may be a smaller obol of Ptolemy I or II, imagery similar to this:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...sp?zpg=11701
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 Posted 01/20/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suppose you are probably right about that one. The posture of the eagle is unusual for the type however--the head is not drawn back, and the breast is not pushed out as far as is normal for the Ptolemaic eagle. How much variation did these coins have from one another? Possibly just an engraver deviating from the standard a bit?

I did find a close match on vcoins:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/fo...Default.aspx

Also, aren't the bronzes of Ptolemy II supposed to have the central dimple?
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 Posted 01/20/2016  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not all Ptolemaic bronzes had centration dimples, Finn. If you scan through the coins pictured at Ptolemybronze.com, you'll see some of the earlier ones, near the top of the page, without them. These include a couple of the elephant scalp types.

http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html

You'll also see some eagles that come close to matching yours. It seems to me that the eagle on the coin you linked to looks a lot like yours too...and that one has no dimple either.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forgot to upload this one earlier:

4/97:

AE 9mm
0.59g

Another tiny coin with a cross; again doesn't match the typical late Roman designs.

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I managed to identify a few more and sort the rest out into groups by origin. I'll post those as soon as I get them imaged.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can just make out what I think is "AVG" on the obverse (which needs to be just slightly rotated clockwise)...and it appears to have a legend around the cross rather than a wreath. Honorius? Arcadius? Something like?:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ro...Default.aspx

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/in...Default.aspx

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/fo...Default.aspx

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