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Venetian Grosso

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Antonio Venier 1382-1400. Ex-jewelry makes it much easier to buy.



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 Posted 01/16/2016  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even with the filled hole and hole it's still a nice coin. Can you describe the coin a little better? Size, weight, and legends.
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Here's the descrip from the Venice page at Beastcoins that, I believe, fits the bill - or comes close...note Zach Beasley's comment at the bottom regarding the "R" in the reverse right field...given the fact that his coin and Arkie's are not from the same dies, I wonder if the "R" is indeed "an engraver's error" as he suggests...it would have had to have been an error repeated at least twice:

Italian States-Venice, Antonio Venier as Doge (1382-1400), Grosso, Type Two, Venice Mint, Uncertain Mintmaster
Obverse:
ANTO . VENERIO-. S . M . VENETI .
St. Mark and the Doge standing facing, holding pendant flag between them, D / V / X in center field
IC | XC
Reverse:
Christ, nimbate, enthroned facing, holding book of Gospels
* | R across fields

Paolucci 37.2

Note: Stahl does not record a name associated with a mintmaster initial of R and I cannot determine any in the date range of 1382-1400 which would support a hypothesis for using an R. Perhaps an engraver error?

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Yes nice coin, despite the holes. I think i'd attribute it as Biaggi -2854. Only change from the Beast Coins description is that the IC XC inscription is on the reverse not the obverse.

It is interesting because your coin's reverse (with that extraneous letter "R") is more similar to the grosso coming from the previous doge (Michele Morosini). Hard to say for sure, but maybe this is a mule with the new doge's obverse and the old doge's reverse?

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