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Chinese? Japanese? What Is It? Year?

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This is another one of the coins or coin like objects I have not been able to identify. Thanks for the help in advance!


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 Posted 01/20/2016  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its hard to see it in the 2x2. Can you take new pictures without the 2x2?
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 Posted 01/20/2016  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you rotate the first picture 180° you should see something like this:
Chinese?-Japanese?-What-Is-It?-Year?
obv : Kuang-hsü T'ung-pao
Ruler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxu_Emperor

rev: looks like:
Boo-Jiyen, Chih Mint
Paoting, CHIHLI

corrections welcome

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That's what I am thinking, but the characters seem very off. If you notice, the inscriptions on both coins are the same, but the characters are completely different. Does not look like a modern counterfeit, and I don't know why they would counterfeit this in contemporary times. Very curious.
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I have tried to compare it to that exact photo and it doesn't match up perfectly. There the inscriptions are different or they sure look that way to me.
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 Posted 01/21/2016  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awaiting manymore's insight. I'm out of my league here.
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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ninji Digger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, manymore's insight would be great. Really anyone with more knowledge on this one is welcome.
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I agree with Petrus. From the square head tong Hartill 22.1424 seems most likely.

As for counterfeiting, contemporary counterfeits do exist but mint officials also skimped on materials to make more of a profit. Similar coins were also make in Vietnam and Indonesia, but I don't know if there are any recorded with this design.
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I doubt it is officially cast. The characters, especially the top character "guang," are too wrong. Note how angular it looks in Petrus' picture, and how the points are long and drawn out in the OP's coin.
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I agree with you Typecoin on the characters being different, but if it was not officially cast then what would it be called? I highly doubt it is a counterfeit considering I found it metal detecting on an old property from the 1700's at about 8" under the ground. To have an understanding as to what it reads and the time period would make this a lot easier.
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It could be a private issue, a contemporary counterfeit, a charm, or an imitation from other oriental countries.
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What words does it read and the time period?
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