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I Found This Penny 1933-D Help Grading?

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I-Found-This-Penny-1933-D--Help-Grading?

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01/26/2016 12:47 am
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If color represented is accurate VF-20 details, quite recently cleaned.
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Maybe a 30.
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With larger pics, it may make EF-40 nice strike.
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I'll be the inbetweener . VF35 Probably cleaned at one time. but nice find.
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Nice find. Too bad it was cleaned.
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Thanks
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VF-EF, pictures too small....but it has been harshly cleaned. This coin should be fully brown.
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Grade is moot.
It's been overly cleaned.
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Agree mid-VF and cleaned. Too bad - tough coin.
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And by the way jairo -

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Yeah, forgot, ..to CCF
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AU details polished. Full split wheat stocks. This coin is not VF
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Obverse is way too worn to get anywhere near a XF yet alone AU.

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Anyone - My ignorance again - sorry -

but not knowing the environment this coin was mostly kept in, how can we tell that it has been cleaned?

80 some odd years of exposure to "normal air" might produce a certain color... i.e. brown?

however, if the coin was in a sealed environment for many years, might that not result in less oxidation and therefore a brighter color?

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Hi Henry - what's missing here is the natural luster. As a result, we can conclude it was mechanically cleaned and/or chemically treated. The wear on the coin is also a tip that this is a circulated coin, albeit, light circulation. As Thad notes, this coin should be brown. I'm willing to say that it was a higher grade brown chemically cleaned and buffed to restore some of the 'shine' removing some of the detail in the process and reducing the grade. And once the natural luster is gone, it's gone. Cleaned and buffed coins take on a new appearance. And lost value.

Environmental damage create pitting and normally, uneven color. Where verdigras has set in, removal usually reveals an uneven color/patina and surface texture. Thad has significant experience in this area, so I should defer to his expertise here.
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