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1999 Lincoln Cent Error - How Do I Describe This?

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I know it's broadstruck, but also has this interesting little strike to the edge. Inside that, you can see part of AMERICA, in mirror image...apparently from the reverse of another coin. But the letters are RAISED and not present on the reverse. What the heck is the deal with that?

I want a good description to put into my Excel file for my collection. What should I put down?

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Looks like broadstruck with a slight brockage.

those are the letters MERI of AMERICA in reverse.

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brockage, but raised leters you say... hmmm can't be double struck cuz if it was it wouldn't be mirrored so only explanation I have is brockage but that wouldn't caused raised letters.
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How can the letters be a mirror image and also raised?
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This looks like it's from a counterfeit die punched onto this penny?
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Is the broadstrike flat or is it dished at all? It appears that the area around IGWT curves upward but I just cannot tell from a 2D photo.
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Here's some side pics:



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I think I have nailed your coin down now. It is obviously broadstruck but the other strike was the confusing part. After extensive consultation of The Official Price Guide to Mint Errors by Alan Herbert, I think the second error is a counter-brockage second strike.

"A coin which was struck normally and was struck a second time off-center with part of a struck brockage coin between the object coin and one of the dies, showing on the struck coin as a stronger than normal off-center strike of any size and in any location on one side of the coin, and as a matching off-center, shallow, irregularly rounded depression sloping up to the remainder of the coin with a slightly enlarged and distorted relief image of the intervening partial coin design."

You may also want to contact CONECA about attributing the error http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/conte...butions.html
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The lettering in the 'cup' area is not raised. It is incuse.

This coin is a broadstrike with a partial brockage.
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Excellent, thanks for the answers folks. I greatly appreciate your responses.
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For insurance purposes, what value should I assign to it?
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Anyone have any idea of value for insurance?

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Thad

these type of coins un attributed can vary in price .

get a couple of guy's jousting for the coin and its price could go anywhere .

I have no first hand experiance with selling or buying such a coin ,, so for insurance I would if it were mine set a value of what you would sell the coin for and double it .

Metalman

PS the lettering looks raised to me in the pictures ,,can you perhaps say again if they are incuse or raised ?
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Thanks for the response Metalman.

I've looked this coin over a lot and the lettering appears to be raised. Thing is, I don't see how it could be because the lettering is a complete mirror image od "MERI". Looks like another coin was pressed down and into it. Could that be post mint?

I'm going to take it to work for some heavy-duty analysis because that area is very difficult to see with only 10x (my highest loupe power). Pictures can also deceive.
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