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I have tentatively identified this coin as: RIC V-2 Southern mint 61. I have compared it to two examples I found at these links: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/...rinus/t.htmlhttp://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca....com/Coins2/Everything seems to match except the staff or cane held in the right hand of Providence. The one on my coin is at about a 60 degree angle and the ones on the 2 examples are almost vertical. However there is also what could be a faint image of a staff at the correct angle on my coin. So I am a bit confused!  Can there be this much variation or have I mis-attributed the coin?   |
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i think you got it pete. maybe a little die break there at the top of the staff?
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maybe a little die break there at the top of the staff? I never though of a die break or crack! It seems very wide to be so short. Is there a place where this kind of thing is discussed? I would think it might be very common? Thanks for taking the time to look at this. |
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Try looking for - Holding Rudder & cornucopiae.
It is described as a Rod in right hand but sometimes isn't a straight line, which makes it look like a rudder.
Yours appears to have more than 1 line making up the " rod "
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02/07/2016 11:28 am
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Thanks, tenbobbit. I have been looking, but so far I have found nothing which looks like it. I will resume searching tomorrow. I appreciate the lead.
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I'm intrigued by the lettering alignment problem between the 12 and 1 o'clock positions on the reverse. That corresponds to the 5 o'clock position on the obverse where we find an oddly impressed loop impinging on the lettering and neck/chest design details there. I suspect that something hard, such as a small loop or deformed ring of metal, was lying on the anvil die at that spot when the planchet was dropped in and struck. I'm surprised it didn't crack the flan, but it did disrupt the strike of the lettering on both sides. Not sure what effect it had on the dies.
Can you see it? Any thoughts?
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Working on some close up photos to post. Thanks.
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I'm intrigued by the lettering alignment problem between the 12 and 1 o'clock positions on the reverse. That corresponds to the 5 o'clock position on the obverse where we find an oddly impressed loop impinging on the lettering and neck/chest design details there. Let me know if these images do not include what you are seeing. Also an image of the rod area and an additional "rod" to the East of that area. I have searched for one that looks like this and so far have not found it.    |
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Great shots, Pete, but the second closeup needs to include a bit more of the neck and beard in order to show the entire loop I mentioned.
What I am calling a "loop" is an incuse (negative) feature which sinks into the surface, not in relief (raised above) the surface. The small center of the loop appears to stand in relief in relation to the depressions surrounding it. But to what does all that correspond in a normal strike of the design?
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the second closeup needs to include a bit more of the neck and beard in order to show the entire loop I mentioned. Thanks - I'll work on that. |
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How is this?  |
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Would this coin best be described by:  Minting errors? or Unreported variety? or ? |
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I sense you are not able to see what I was referring to. Maybe it's just my imagination, but here is the area I meant. Can you see where the beard and the final letters of the inscription are interrupted by some kind of "trench-like" depression?  I would call the coin a "variety" or "variant" of the normal version of this ant. When you have figured out what everything is, on both sides of the coin, then you could make the name more specific. Edited by lrbguy
02/09/2016 1:02 pm
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Thanks. I did understand the area, but I am not sure that I am seeing a trench.
I must admit that I am totally lost!
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I do see the "trench" now, after comparing to yet other images, especially the image on this page: http://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImpe...ctorinus.htmThere is not supposed to be a space between the ties on the front of the curias and the letters as shows here. |
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