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 Posted 02/12/2016  06:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How does this coin look ?
Are there high quality replicas of this coin ?

1787-6-Pence

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02/12/2016 06:44 am
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 Posted 02/12/2016  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has me a little confused.

obverse:
The bottom of the 'T''s in the legend have a little high have a tiny high point which is unworn.
However there are other small areas on the design that have high points that are flattened, such as curls above the king's ear, side of nostril, and a tiny flat spot on the king's eyebrow.

reverse:
Shoulder of the leopard has a tiny flat spot (probably not fully struck up), no obvious wear elsewhere. Crown detail good.

Would like to compare next to a known genuine coin.


Assuming weight, diameter and edge milling look OK.


I don't KNOW of any high quality fakes of these, but news of their existence would not surprise me.
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 Posted 02/12/2016  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go sel
This is my 1787 sixpence as a comparison.
Graded by NGC at AU55.
Other than being pretty harshly cleaned I think the OP's coin looks genuine.
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 Posted 02/12/2016  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Sel and Trout.
I have never seen a fake.
It has been cleaned.

I will also add it is the no hearts type.(Top shield on the reverse...Hanoverian Shield)
It is a common coin and the hearts/no hearts appear in the same nrs.
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 Posted 02/12/2016  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wear is evenly consistent with trout's coin, and is consistent with AU55.
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 Posted 02/12/2016  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, so the hearts and no hearts have similar value ?
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 Posted 02/12/2016  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I just noticed something different from my coin and trouts - the space between the 'I' and the Kings head is inconsistent, does that raise some alarm bells ?
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No alarm bells in my opinion. I have a number of coins with the 1's of the ordinal being high or low or close or far.
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 Posted 02/13/2016  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hearts or no hearts are usually the same value.Or they should be.
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