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Well folks... Spent the week going through approx. 5000 Toonies from the bank. Found 2 of these very strange Toonies (I presume counterfeit). Any opinions or information on the subject? Does anyone have one? Iv only seen three (2 of my own, Kafka has 1). *I posted one of these Toonies in another thread, here is the other I found today!   (Found Today)  (Found Today)  (Posted in other thread)  (Posted in other thread)  Edited by NorthSideTy
02/18/2016 10:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Looks like a play money bust of the queen, should maybe just turn them over to the rcmp. Just take the weight and good pics for education purposes. Rcmp always appreciate help from the public.
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There have been recent posts about the center sections being struck off-center and other differences. Your coins counterfeit, not so sure  |
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Alan, I know it does look strange and its missing some detail and thats exactly what I plan on doing after I find out more. I'm also going to go through about the same amount of Toonies next week so I'm going to hold off for now.
Fuzzy, yes I posted the first one I found in that thread. Today I found another so I started a new thread with them both side by side.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's likely they're being circulated in your region, if you're finding them all and no one else has?
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The weight of a toonie is 7.3 grams. The first one you posted weighed less as I recall?
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Would be interesting if you knew someone with a soft drink or vending machine, have them open it and see if it passes electromagnetic sensors. It's most certainly not genuine because that's a whole different die that struck that. I'd bet a nickel that someone in your region is putting them into the system. Too coincidental that you're just finding them wherever in Canada you are. Best of luck.
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Considering you got your toonies from a bank, they have means of detecting counterfeits and accordingly would file a police report.
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But if they come in rolls, I don't know if they do or care to go through them? The bank would however have a record of who's bringing in said rolls. they likely just slip a few in here and there, similar to our American cousins slipping in the odd Canadian quarter into bank rolls, and so on. Have to figure each one of those have to cost 50 cents or a dollar to create in limited quantities.
do you hunt from the same bank?
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No, I doubt they'd check rolls unless they had good reason to. Also the bank likely wouldn't be able to trace the source and even if they could, that wouldn't necessarily identify the counterfeiter, just someone who unknowingly accepted it and deposited rolls. But the reason banks care is because its illegal to pass counterfeits and therefore they're generally very avid at detection, Police generally work closely with banks as well as that's a convenient and common detection point. But without a local police force becoming aware, the culprits have no chance of being stopped.
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02/19/2016 12:21 am
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Alan, the 10 boxes I picked up this week were all from the same bank. The bank told me that an outsourced company empties their coin depositing machines and I'm not to sure where it comes from when I order the boxes?
Wildflower, the first coin weighs 7.18 grams! I thought the banks could detect counterfeit as well.
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I don't think there's anyway of detecting counterfeit in rolls without opening up the rolls, with banks generally would have no reason to do. But I really think there's a high likelihood that you're on to something -- in a very short period of time 3 very similar suspicious toonies with a totally pathetic looking queen? Never before has there been indications of fake 1999 Nunavut toonies. You're in a very small minority of people who actually examine a coin and anyone in the business of counterfeiting isn't creating only a few. Your other option would be to visit your local police detachment and let them examine it.
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02/19/2016 01:20 am
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I think these coins should be sent to SPP or Nickelsguy. They will run tests on it before sending it to the RCMP.
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Yes that as well, in fact it was suggested that the OP do that in the other thread on the same topic. Anything to get the wheels in motion....
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Which area do you hunt in? I'll keep an eye open for these...
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