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I have a small box of assorted U.S coins where I put lower value, low grade or damaged coins. I recently received my copy of the new Bust Dime Identification guide (very handy and easy to use), so I decided to attribute a couple of CBDs in that box. This low grade 1821 looks interesting. I think it is the JR-2 variety, which is described as R-5 in the guide, but R6+ and R-7 at the major auction houses. The coin is low grade, but it has all markers for the JR-2 variety, namely the position of '1' in the date on the reverse, and the position of the motto on reverse. The weakness and later bulge shown at stars 2, 3 (caused by a die crack) is typical of the variety and evident on this coin. Would be great If somebody could comment on and/or confirm this. Always check your 'junk' boxes, you never know what you may have in them!    Edited by GERMANICVS
02/22/2016 04:27 am
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The placement of the 1 in relation to the hair curl and the placement of the C to the branches look correct to me.
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Thank you very much for your comments TypeCoin971793.
It would be great if this were a JR-2, as it seems to be.
I probably thought it was just a worn, low grade CBD (due to the weakness in front of the bust), and never thought much of it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes it's a JR-2, latest book has it as an R-5
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Yes, the new Dime ID Guide has it as R-5 as well, so the rarity has come down as more are found. So probably anywhere up to 35-50 known, from only 16 or so not so long ago.
This appears to be the case for many previously rare varieties in the series that I collect (large cents, quarters, dimes). It probably happens across the board.
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Rest in Peace
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Rarity only heads in one direction. It may become more common, it virtually never becomes more scarce/rare.
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Yes it's a JR-2, latest book has it as an R-5 So it went from an R-7(4 to 12) Extremely rare to a R-5 (31-75) known in the new book? Finest seen is a VF-25 has that changed as well? |
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This is the now the finest known: 1821 JR-2 An amazing coin from the Pogue Collection recently sold by Stacks/Bowers. MS66.  The new Dime ID guide rates JR-2 as R-5. I don't know what the JRCS census lists it at, but I would think it is the same. From the reading I've done since I found mine yesterday, the more knowledgeable collectors are calling it now Mid. R-5 Edited by GERMANICVS
02/23/2016 05:15 am
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Another interesting example of how rarity ratings evolve over time is the 1829 JR-10, with Curled-Base 2. JR-10 is also a Red-Book variety.
1829 JR-10 has traditionally been considered as very scarce to rare
(R-7). It is now rated R-5 in the 2015 Dime ID Guide with 40 examples of this variety confirmed, and at least 50-60 firmly thought to exist by the more knowledgeable CBD collectors.
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What a great feeling.. That's cool man!!
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The new Dime ID guide rates JR-2 as R-5. I don't know what the JRCS census lists it at, but I would think it is the same.
From the reading I've done since I found mine yesterday, the more knowledgeable collectors are calling it now Mid. R-5 It just dawn on me that the information I'm learning from was printed in 1984.  Just order the new dime variety guide for $49 from Rich and as an excuse picked up a 1824 dime that was on sale. |
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The Dime ID guide is handy and easy to use. Great pictures as well.
Being a recent publication (2015), the Guide seems to use the latest census figures to assign rarity ratings, so that is very useful as well.
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Nice find, makes me wanna check mine  |
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