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Is This Coin Genuine?

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 Posted 02/22/2016  11:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wbarkley to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received this coin as a gift. I can't tell if it is real or much of anything about it really.



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 Posted 02/23/2016  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may have been a "real" coin ......

I see so much tooling though that the patination can't be genuine.
Therefore it makes everything about it suspect in my eyes. Extremely rare type issue and rarely seen so well executed i.e. centered and evenly struck.


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It probably is "genuine" in the sense that it is actually what it pretends to be !
But a lot of sculpting has been done and artificial patination put on it (a few coats of enamel ?)
Sort of like taking a 2,000 year old blank papyrus scroll and adding hieroglyphics.
Yes the scroll is genuine ancient
But all the details are modern
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 Posted 02/23/2016  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't have said it any better than FR.
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Sorry, but I'm seeing a cast fake, not a genuine-but-tooled coin. The legend is very mushy, the reverse details are kind of melting into the background and there are raised bumps (casting bubbles) in the obverse field.

I suspect the "tooling" effect comes about from being a copy-of-a-copy, with the details getting so mushy they had to be "augmented" somewhere in the duplication process.
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I was inclined to think cast fake myself. Bronze does not cast the same as silver and copper. Generally cast bronze requires 'machining'.
But on second look I thought the side view appeared very much like a genuine sestertius of the period.

Either way
I put it in the category of novelty paperweight !
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Cast fake
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If this was a real Roman coin at some point, what could you reasonably expect the thickness to be now? I don't have many Roman bronzes, but most are considerably thinner than this one. I guess some of the Roman provincials are quite thick.
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 Posted 02/23/2016  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wbarkley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input! I had a sneaking suspicion.
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My initial suspicion was initiated by it being too round.
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