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2015-P Saratoga Quarter DDR. The Real Deal?

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Hello. My name is John and I recently got back into collecting. Have been looking through lots of rolls from local banks and this past Sunday found a few of the new Saratoga quarters. This is one of the quarters I found. Haven't been able to find any mention of this online so didn't know if maybe I'm the first to find one. Doubling is on the 2 in the date and a bit on the pinky finger knuckle. Let me know what you think...

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On a raised device that would be interesting. But on the ATB Quarters the devices on the outer ring are incuse. So this is just machine damage on that area. I've seen this before. With the devices incuse, an enlargement would be MD.
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I save a roll when I would find these in circulation and I'm surprised how many of the MD examples are out there for this series. No a doubled die, just die movement during the strike.
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Dang. Thought I had something. Thanks for the info. What does "MD" stand for?
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Machine doubling.
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What's "MD" stand for John?
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My bad just seen answer?
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Still a cool looking coin.
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Ah, got it. Thanks for the answer. Was hoping it was something more but still going to hang on to it.
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I know this is an older post, and I know very little about modern coinage and the errors that occur through the modern minting process, but I have seen this before and the same answer given, which I'm certain is accurate with knowledge I of so many here in this area.
My question, and forgive me if it's been answered already, is "What would a true doubled die (or hub?) look like on the incuse lettering area?"....
When this was first seen in the groups, I would imagine there was initial confusion with even the experts thinking "nice doubling".... end it either because it does happen so often, or someone having the lightbulb go off and thinking, "Wait a second! These are incues letters"...and having to picture in their mind what true doubling would look like, and/or why this is not what doubling would look like.
My terminology may be off, and I do tend to ramble, but in a nutshell, what would a doubled die on the incuse legends/date area look like? Thank you!! Pictures are fantastic, and a step-by-step explanation of what happens in the process would be a great addition to the photo! Like people here, I do love to picture what a die must look like to produce the errors, and not being an error collector to the extent those here are, what might take one of you 30 seconds to imagine it would take me an hour, 10 pieces of paper, and a logic flowchart. LOL
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Here is a thread of a cent 2013 DDR that shows what a shield DDR would look like. The raised devices are all enlarged. The incuse devices are actually made small from the hub doubling. It is a ways down the post of images.
http://goccf.com/t/257897
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