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Anyone Know The Difference Between PL And An Actual SP Issue? 1949 Dollar

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I have what I believe to be a 1949 Canada dollar that is the SP issue with the mirrored fields and frosted portrait/devices. Anyone know the distinct differences between a proof like example and the specimen proof? Any help you can provide would be outstanding. Thx!
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Here are a couple of "not so great" photos of the coin in question.



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pictures would help alot but the difference between PL(if there are any? I'm still confused about it), circulation and SP strikes is the fully struck rims.
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a specimen is struck fully and carefully, so it should have full, well formed rims with a full seperation from the denticles.
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that is just a SPECTACULAR coin! wow, what a mirrored finish! I think it is a specimen.
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Thx dollarman, I suppose if anyone had the best general understanding between the two, it would be you. The coin has sharp edges and is clearly defined from the denticles. I had an UNC 1950 Arnprior side by side and even the edge is considerably sharper and appears thicker. I think it falls in the SP63 range, it was sitting in an old 2x2 that had a little bit of dust inside there.
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I got fooled recently by a similar looking dollar with a similar finish and cameo. Upon further inspection it was determined not to be an SP strike.
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trust me, I am not great with determining different strikes and there are many MUCH smarter people here than me. what a great coin though. as far as grade...i am not sure, the scratch behind the ship hurts it but is not a major take away from such a brilliant looking coin.
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Here's a PCGS SP63 example that sold on the bay. Any resemblance?
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I do not consider myself an expert on this either but the way it was explained to me is that the major difference would be in the rim, it would be extremely sharp. The business strikes for that year had a mirror finish with a light cameo. The 49 dollars came to the banks in tubes which preserved them further. It's not uncommon to see them in very high grades and ICCS is very critical of them as a lot of them seem undergraded.
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1949 was the first year for PL dollars. IMO this is one of them, the rims and strike quality just don't seem up to snuff for a Specimen strike.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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kookoox10 beautiful coin. you are being reflected in the coin. that coin is stunning. I darken it a little. hope you down mind

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For it to be the specimen the lettering needs to be finer, flatter and sharper in appearance no roundness. It's a nice coin, fresh chrome plated and polished dies. Superior coin, but not a specimen in my humble opinion.
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Coin Scavenger posted a nice Specimen 1949 dollar on Page 4 of this Days of Topic;

https://goccf.com/t/188531&whichpage=4
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