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10c Noodling Stats

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 Posted 02/27/2016  08:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Instead of whingeing and complaining about all the coins I was missing from my circulating coin collection, I decided to go out and start looking for some of them.

Here are my statistics for the Australian 10c coin:

10c-Noodling-Stats

This is based on a sample size of 1912 coins, so I will likely add to it in the future. Here are some more graphs:

10c-Noodling-Stats

10c-Noodling-Stats

As you can see, a large number of pre-1997 coins have been removed from circulation, whereas most of the post-2006 coins still remain. The only exception to this is the 2011 coin, which seems to have been hoarded by collectors.

Much to my surprise, the 1991 and 1997 coins show up with roughly equal frequency, which contradicts the results of my last 19 years of noodling, where I found two or three 1991 10c coins but no 1997 ones. Now, I've found four of each within a single week, which equates to one in every 478 10c coins (or one in every $47.80' worth of 10c coins). However, I only found one 2011 coin, and no 1985 ones, so these are obviously much rarer than the 1991 and 1997 ones.

I've also noticed that since 2006, the 10c coins have oscillated between low-mintage and high-mintage years, with odd-numbered years having much lower mintages than even-number ones. This suggests that 2015 will be a low-mintage year, and if they fail to release more into circulation, the final mintage will probably end up around 7 million. This assumes that the mint has the correct mintage for the 2014 10c coin listed on their website, so if this is much higher than they say it is, then the mintage of the 2015 10c coin will also be higher, because that's what I'm basing my calculations on.

Finally, I have assumed that the mintage of the 1977 10c coin was 24.1 million, not the 10.9 million listed on the mint's website, because the latter figure looks erroneous when plotted on my graphs. I won't post the aberrant graphs here because they'll cause confusion, but in the second graph, the 1977 column rises to 1.37, and in the third graph, it rises to 38%. Such low attrition figures aren't met again until 2007, which is 30 years after these coins were released into circulation. This strongly suggests that the mint's figures are unreliable for this particular year, and that the actual mintage of the 1977 10c coin really was around 24 million.
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 Posted 02/27/2016  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I very much enjoyed your careful analysis of your noodling. The time you've spent recording your finds have proven quite useful in your estimations.

Thanks for posting. I hope a lot of folks will read this presentation and learn from it. I did.
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 Posted 02/27/2016  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The only exception to this is the 2011 coin, which seems to have been hoarded by collectors
Only 1.75m of these minted, so I would be very surprised if you found more than a couple of these. I have only ever found 1.

Keep up the good work, although I have to admit I don't understand your graphs.
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Fantastic work Hercules. This sort of stuff is gold to many of us collectors.

I guess what we can see is that roughly half the coins minted before the early 80s have disappeared from circulation.

Many of us have reached the same conclusion regarding the 1977 10c. It's far too common in circulation to have a mintage of 10.9 million and many of the early catalogs have the mintage at $24.1 million which is much more likely to be the correct figure
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 Posted 02/28/2016  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great job Hercules!
Thanks for sharing this very interesting and informative stuff.
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 Posted 02/28/2016  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the compliments. Although the first two graphs are based entirely on empirical evidence, the third graph is based on the following assumptions:

1. That the final mintage for the 2014 10c coin is 60.7 million (as stated on the RAM website)
2. That all of theses coins have been released into circulation
3. That none of these coins have yet been removed from circulation

Although I firmly believe that the second assumption is true, and that the third assumption is "approximately true", I won't be fully convinced of the first assumption until the mint releases its annual report at the end of October, and if the mint revises this figure upwards, the attrition rate for all years prior to 2014 will be much less than the third graph claims. As such, I might have to start using 2013 as the benchmark for the attrition rate instead of 2014, because I have greater certainty that the 2013 mintage figures are accurate.

I've just finished going through that same batch of coins, looking for varieties and errors, and although I found plenty of them, I'm sick to death of seeing 10c coins, so it could be several days until I compile a list of them all. Tail Cud errors were common in 1999, 2010, 2012, and 2014, and I found missing tail feathers in 1966, 1976, 1980-1982, 1999 and 2007. Please take this with a grain of salt until I compile my list, because this is designed just to whet your appetite. I've also got a 1968 coin that looks like a clipped planchet, but it could also be post-mint damage ( PMD), so I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach with that one.
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 Posted 02/28/2016  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a combination of the first and third graphs:

10c-Noodling-Stats.

Instead of using percentages, I've tried to estimate the actual number of coins left in circulation for each particular year. Once again, this is subject to the mint reporting an accurate mintage figure for 2014, so if this is wrong, then everything else is wrong.
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 Posted 02/28/2016  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what the graph looks like if you use 2013 as the base year:

10c-Noodling-Stats

Once again, there is a massive attrition rate for old coins, which is much higher than I would ever have anticipated.

No wonder the mint's trying to figure out what we do with all our old shrapnel! Where on earth do you think it's all gone?
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