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Please To Help With Value And Condition Of This UK Coin

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hello

please to help with market price, condition (i think F+) and how it rare this UK shilling

1 shilling 1854 year

thank you



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The reverse appears to be unworn, but affected by a corrosive environment.
The obverse seems to grade about good VF (British grading), but affected almost as severely.

It has a curious attractive quality nevertheless.
I would value it as equivalent to a Fine coin, but it would buyers reasonably easily at a Fine condition price.
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According to my Krause, there were 552,000 shillings minted in 1854. In this series (between 1838 and 1863), the '54 had the second lowest mintage behind the '51. I have no idea on how many were saved and therefore remain collectible though. Seems like it might be a nice catch for you, although clearly both faces have been degraded by something. I might have a second look at the rim right next to the second letter "I" in VICTORIA. It seems to me that there is a weird bubble shape there.
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please see scan

weight 5, 45 gr



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This appears to have been in a fire and subsequently cleaned a long time ago. That can produce the strange surface this coin has, another alternative is exposure to a corrosive atmosphere.
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Mintages recorded are often irrelevant to the actual date on the coin.
Many of the 552,414 shillings minted in 1854 were likely to have been made using 1853 dies.
Hence the rarity.
This follows with all denominations and years.
With regard to the 1854 pictured it would probably be only wanted by die hard space filling collectors.
It has had a very hard life.Value maybe a few £'s or maybe more depending on which way the wind is blowing.


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now I am worried. it looking more like original or more like fake?
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I have seen the occasional example like this one, in the same sort of corroded condition.

No. It is not a fake.
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Collectors coins GB lists the 1854 shilling as £250 in F condition.
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Maybe a F does catalogue at £250 but there is no way the coin pictured is worth anything near this.
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high or low from F?
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In don't understand your question.
It wouldn't get graded.There is no catalogue value for your 1/-
Your guess on value is good as anyones.Put on ebay and it will find its level.
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